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Was just reading through the GD70 thread over on xtremesytems. Apparently messing with the PLL voltage (whatever that is) can help with stability. Also turning up the PCI-e voltage to 1.4 can help flatten things out if you have a high CPUNB clock. Learning...learning lots. This board is crazy and its making me think.
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Hey fellas, been a while since I posted in this thread, how's the OC's going?

I'm interested in getting a 965 when the 125w come out and wanted to see if anyone was having luck OCing one of those with this board. I'm having some issues with my 955 and I'm almost convinced it has something to do with the chip's IMC. I can run Prime at 1024K all day and be fine at 3.7Ghz but when I try for the 640K and below, my cores will start to fail left and right one minute in. I've loosened the timings on my RAM to 9-9-9 and even left it on auto (which loosens the timings even more) and still no luck. I've tried upping the CPU-NB voltage but it's still not 100% stable. Any ideas would be a great help.
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First, to piggy back in response to The Mastier Chief,

One can ALSO hold the Shift key down while hitting the Page up/dn or the +/- and it will move the number by multiples of 10 Much faster. But with the 4 Preset saves in the bios that are available, make sure that you save the current setup Before hit "F10/save" sequence.

Second,

Mxthunder, PLL stands for "Phase Lock Loop". What that does, in a nutshell, is send voltage back to the CPU to stablize the frequncy to create a more stable environment to OC in. It cancels out the spikes in the frequency and creates a more steady wave of speed, so to speak.

Lastly, CAHOP240,

What are you trying to achieve? Are you trying to hit higher frequncy Ram speeds? Or something else? We may be able to help out with a bit more info on your goal! Thanks!
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Hi all!
I am so new i still smell like pee.. I have 1/4 of my system sitting in boxes next to me, still waiting on the rest. I have done a bit of overclocking in the past. My first serious o/c was a duron 800 I soldered the trace routes on and got up to 1600 with a 75 watt peltier for cooling. My last rig is going through fits and keeps shutting down soon after boot, still have to run memtest to see if its the mem or controller that failed. ( 939 pin xp +3000 msi neo 4 geforce 7600 gs)
I have gotten about 480 post through the forum so far and kinda wish I had found the site before I ordered some of the parts on my new rig. Specificly the zalman 9700 cooler and the Corsair XMS3 PC3-12800. I will be doing the dos bios flash to the new beta to see if I can get the 720 be to unlock the 4th core after I get everything stable. I am still looking at getting 2 more of the 1 Tb sata Seagate Barracuda's and doing a raid setup. Anyone tried the raid 5 or raid 10 yet and if so any thoughts or suggestions? I am sure I will talk your ears off later, but for now I should give the old brain a rest.
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anyone no if a can octo crossfirex with 4870x2s or quad crossfire with 4890 i have $1000 saved
I seen some benches of the 4870 x2 in crossfire mode, pretty beefy, and might spend some of that 1k$ on a 1000+w power supply if that is what you are going for. If you are concerned about burning the paint off the wall behind the computer case you might consider trying the 4890 vapor-x vid cards, there not all that special for the overclock, none of the 4800's seem to have much headroom, but the coolers they incorporate do give just a bit more room to o/c and well you wont burn your fingers black if you reach around the back to play with a usb cable.
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Darth Llama,

LMAO on the first comment dude!

AS far as the 720BE, just to prepare you, not all of the 720 will unlock and if they do, some have reported much instablilty. From what I've heard (and everyone knows how that goes) the early 720's might have be a mojority to push the model for marketing but now they have had tothe chance to really put some bad fourth core 720's out there, spend the extra 50-75 bones and get a guaranteed Stable 4th core! It's worth it..
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too late as the 720 BE is sitting in my lap already (9206046c90127), miss kittyis eyeballing it trying to figure how shes getting into the little box. I am amused as ever with the "thermal pad" on the bottom of their "p.o.s." stock cooler. The zalman 9700, sony dvd drives, cpu and the extra antec 120mm fan for the side of the antec 900 arrived on saturday. I still need to order the video card, but am pretty set on the radeon hd 4870x2 so far. Everything but the sound card, 2 extra Barracuda's and the video card are paid for and in transit. The zalman looks so heavy I will be pulling it off when I ship my rig to australia later in the year so it does not put microfractures in the motherboard.
I don't see much difference in the die location for the core as I did a stint with national semiconductor making wafers for a military contractor and the location seems not so important if the photo resist mask is well centered. Arguably the closer to the center the less it will be off if the noob aligning the mask cant find the test die's, but when your doing 1200+ wafers a day you get pretty good at hitting the mark. As to the cores it may be hit or miss I expect, without actually talking to the amd engineers I dont know how they work their error sampling, they may test a sample from each wafer or off each lot and if they get one fail they may sort the whole lot or wafer to a 3x core or 2x core bin. But you cant win it if your not in it I hear, so i'm in it and the win or fail will get posted.
I have spend a bit looking at the benches and it does seem there is not a whole lot of actual coding for the use of all 4 cores in software at this point, and the 3x cores do near as well and sometimes better in many bench test. I am a tightfisted sob and with the cost on the new rig over $1300 at this point I did try and shave off a few $ where I seen it was not cost effective, and so i could convince the little lady to let me drop $400 on the radeon 4870x2.
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Darth Llama, my friend, the Direct X 11 cards are coming out within a matter of a few days. Why don't you wait and see how they perform against the Radeon 4800 series cards. If there isn't much of a difference, and you have 400 dollars to spend on a GPU, buy two 4890s. They are wonderful cards. My Toxic overclocks like a beast and I am able to max out every game I play, except for the obvious (crysis). But even in Crysis I can pull off reasonable frames on max settings. I'll be getting 20-30 FPS, but it's still playable.

Long story short (sorry to get off topic I love bragging about my GPU), you should buy either a DX11 card when they come out in a few days, or a 4890 with the hopes of CFing them in the future. If you get a 4870x2, which don't get me wrong is a great card, you'll be limited to a trifire 4870 setup. If you're going big, trifire 4870 is quite a large step behind trifire 4890. You'll regret the 4870x2 for that reason, as well as the fact that it is mad expensive.

That's just my 2 cents. Good luck on the build!
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too late as the 720 BE is sitting in my lap already (9206046c90127), miss kittyis eyeballing it trying to figure how shes getting into the little box. I am amused as ever with the "thermal pad" on the bottom of their "p.o.s." stock cooler. The zalman 9700, sony dvd drives, cpu and the extra antec 120mm fan for the side of the antec 900 arrived on saturday. I still need to order the video card, but am pretty set on the radeon hd 4870x2 so far. Everything but the sound card, 2 extra Barracuda's and the video card are paid for and in transit. The zalman looks so heavy I will be pulling it off when I ship my rig to australia later in the year so it does not put microfractures in the motherboard.
I don't see much difference in the die location for the core as I did a stint with national semiconductor making wafers for a military contractor and the location seems not so important if the photo resist mask is well centered. Arguably the closer to the center the less it will be off if the noob aligning the mask cant find the test die's, but when your doing 1200+ wafers a day you get pretty good at hitting the mark. As to the cores it may be hit or miss I expect, without actually talking to the amd engineers I dont know how they work their error sampling, they may test a sample from each wafer or off each lot and if they get one fail they may sort the whole lot or wafer to a 3x core or 2x core bin. But you cant win it if your not in it I hear, so i'm in it and the win or fail will get posted.
I have spend a bit looking at the benches and it does seem there is not a whole lot of actual coding for the use of all 4 cores in software at this point, and the 3x cores do near as well and sometimes better in many bench test. I am a tightfisted sob and with the cost on the new rig over $1300 at this point I did try and shave off a few $ where I seen it was not cost effective, and so i could convince the little lady to let me drop $400 on the radeon 4870x2.
Zalman 9700 is not exactly the best cooler if you are planning to overclock imho.
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Zalman 9700 is not exactly the best cooler if you are planning to overclock imho.
I agree but I was using one on my E8500 then my Q9550 and the my 720 BE for months at a time and my temps we always very good.

But for the money there are much better coolers.
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