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why can't i hit the magic 4.0ghz? i can get to 3.9Ghz and runs stable but i bump it up abit to just 4Ghz no boot into windows, i've tried the following:

- upped voltages
- lowered & increased Ram speed
- lowered fsb increased multi
- increased fsb lowered multi
- changed HT link speeds

I know my ram is painfully bad but i've gone from 3.2 -> 3.9 with it so far and i dont think an extra 100mhz is out of its range.

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Thoughts & suggestions?
In what terms do you mean "stable"? As in being able to use applications/games or as in Prime 95 stable? I can only get up to 3.9ghz stable for Prime 95 and even then it may last only a few hours.
    
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I really don't care much for overclocking, I purchased this system because I liked the stock speeds... All I ever wanted was stability in my life, lol. And this doesn't happen with just specific games, these specific games are just a few that I play that causes such stress.

I have several question though, I believe I read on these forums near page 470 or so that the hyper transport er, whatever it is that relates to that error, is located in the cpu, so values for hyper transport settings would be depended on cpu?
Also, could the high gpu usages I see before the crashes be a coincidence? If the gpu is being used heavily, then it's possible that the cpu is being used heavily too, no? and it might relate with the ht settings of the cpu?

I stress tested my gpus for an hour at the highest settings, and everything ran fine. I'm not sure what to test next, so I'm currently testing my ram using intelburntest v2.4. Not exactly sure as to how this works since I don't know where to monitor temps... I do know how to tell if my computer crashes though, lol

When you say I need to check and stress each component separately, do you mean something along the lines of increase settings to gpu, test gpu, keep new settings for gpu, increase settings to cpu, test cpu.... etc, or do you mean reset the settings and have everything in low performance except for the one thing I'm testing for?

depending on what you meant by that, then I need to know how to balance them =/

heh, I've kind of been reading through them? I've been scanning through all of them for issues that may seem related to mine. I've also seen that changing the heat sync paste in the motherboard nb cooling can drop temps 10-20 degrees Celsius? Would you recommend I try that as well if nothing else seems to work? And actually before that, is there a way to monitor this temp?

eh, sorry for all the questions, lol, I realize I ask a lot of questions.
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In what terms do you mean "stable"? As in being able to use applications/games or as in Prime 95 stable? I can only get up to 3.9ghz stable for Prime 95 and even then it may last only a few hours.
super pi stable, 3dmark06 stable, cod:mw2 stable
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Well i'm at 4.1ghz now,still only cpu multi overclocking,everything else at stock.Looking very interesting.


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[QUOTE=moorhen2;9227820]Well i'm at 4.1ghz now,still only cpu multi overclocking,everything else at stock.Looking very interesting.

thats awesome!. Thuban looks like its gonna be a good chip from the looks of it...heard people getting upto 4.3ghz on air and not even breakin a sweat.
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I really don't care much for overclocking, I purchased this system because I liked the stock speeds... All I ever wanted was stability in my life, lol. And this doesn't happen with just specific games, these specific games are just a few that I play that causes such stress.
If that is the case, then Optimal settings with the PCE-i volts set to 1.25-1.3 should be where you want to be.Start there. Your set-up should run all day just fine at those settings.You need to know if your rig is stable at Optimal before moving forward.

What are the games you are playing...?

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I have several question though, I believe I read on these forums near page 470 or so that the hyper transport er, whatever it is that relates to that error, is located in the cpu, so values for hyper transport settings would be depended on cpu?
Also, could the high gpu usages I see before the crashes be a coincidence? If the gpu is being used heavily, then it's possible that the cpu is being used heavily too, no? and it might relate with the ht settings of the cpu?
Yes, that's what the consensus is, but my case, I'm sure it was video card/drivers/software related. It went went away with a fresh install.

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I stress tested my gpus for an hour at the highest settings, and everything ran fine. I'm not sure what to test next, so I'm currently testing my ram using intelburntest v2.4. Not exactly sure as to how this works since I don't know where to monitor temps... I do know how to tell if my computer crashes though, lol
Intelburn should be ran for 10 runs at first using HIGH..... If it passes record your settings, then go back in bios and up your FSB 1 click, then retest....one more click then retest. When it fails, it will either tell you that your setting are unstable, or your system will reboot. You'll notice that every time you raise you fsb, your ram with go up a little as well as your NB, and your HT. This is why you test one thing at a time. When testing your ram, you want to find the the highest speeds, with the tightest timings, and the lowest latencies. This is a good read to start with mduclow's down and dirty PII overclocking. I know you may not want to overclock, but it will give you insight on how to go at it.Especially for your Ram/NB. Change only one thing at a time, test,change,test,... it's very time consuming, sometimes it takes weeks, but it's the best way. Every boad,CPU,GPU will be different.What works for one,may be unstable for another.


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heh, I've kind of been reading through them? I've been scanning through all of them for issues that may seem related to mine. I've also seen that changing the heat sync paste in the motherboard nb cooling can drop temps 10-20 degrees Celsius? Would you recommend I try that as well if nothing else seems to work? And actually before that, is there a way to monitor this temp?
Everest and/or Core Temp and GPU-Z .

As for the NB paste, it's only necessary if your going to OC your NB, or, your NB temps are way high. Mine dropped 19C after doing it. Theres a guide on the first page. Eventulally you will want to get the NB at least up to 2600. Some will tell you 2800-3000. It should run 2600 at stock volts(cpu-nb v). This will help your ram. And speaking of the Ram, run them in the 2 farthest slots from the CPU.

Also, which 955 do you have.. C2 or C3?

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eh, sorry for all the questions, lol, I realize I ask a lot of questions.
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Yeah... So what. That's what these forums are for....
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Just re-tim'd my NB and SB and the northbridge temps being displayed by Everest have dropped from 57c idle to 45c, gonna load it up now and see whats what. Thats a major difference.

Load temps after half an hour of prime 95, 51c, thats a massive 15c drop. Really pleased I was encourgaed to do this, thanks Ian.
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Just re-tim'd my NB and SB and the northbridge temps being displayed by Everest have dropped from 57c idle to 45c, gonna load it up now and see whats what. Thats a major difference.

Load temps after half an hour of prime 95, 51c, thats a massive 15c drop. Really pleased I was encourgaed to do this, thanks Ian.
Thats good news Gary,and your welcome to the advice.
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I have been getting memory related problems on a 6 month old system. I could only boot from one stick of RAM (Corsair TW3X4G1333C9A) but even then system was not stable for gameplay or stability test though this stick did pass overnight memtest. I returned the board, cpu and memory for them to test. They diagnosed faulty RAM and replaced. Well it worked OK for 24 hours then I started getting BSOD "PFN_List_Corrupt" and "Memory_Management" crashes.

I tested the new sticks and one fails memtest after a few seconds with 2378 errors and the other, although it passes memtest with 20 passes, crashes out straight away on Prime95 Blend Test (i.e. the one that stresses RAM).

They suggested I enter DDR Voltage manually rather than relying on Auto but no matter what I seem to enable this option is greyed out. Does anyone know which settings need changing from defaults so I can get at the voltage section?
I have tried swapping around the dimms but they are all the same regardless so not a slot problem. Now of course, I don't see it as a RAM problem either unless I am the unluckiest person to keep getting bad sticks.

So now I think maybe something on the board or CPU is causing damage to the RAM or at least causing it to mis-report. Could a fault in the memory controller be doing this and if so how can I test for this?

At my wit's end here. Hope someone has some ideas - either on how to access DDR Voltage in the BIOS or get to the cause of my problem.

Many thanks.
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If that is the case, then Optimal settings with the PCE-i volts set to 1.25-1.3 should be where you want to be.Start there. Your set-up should run all day just fine at those settings.You need to know if your rig is stable at Optimal before moving forward.

What are the games you are playing...?
I ran Linx, intelburn, and msi kombuster each for 1 hour at high, and system was fine... however 3dmark06 crashed after about 15 seconds... and this was with optimal settings except for pci-e voltage and after upping the voltage to the ram to 1.65 with stock timings and a lowered frequency of 1333. The games that I've run, well, pretty much just EVE Online, FEAR 1 crashes every time I get to a certain point in the game (still the HTSF Error), but that might be just an install issue, so yea, EVE Online

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And speaking of the Ram, run them in the 2 farthest slots from the CPU.
Erm, I actually have 4 sticks of ram... but it explains why when running with 2 I had more issues, I tried haveing it set up I I _ _ and I _ I _
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Also, which 955 do you have.. C2 or C3?
I think it's C3, CPU-Z indicates Processor Revision RB-C3

Oh, and BIOS updated to 1.B0, pretty sure it's unnecessary, but I don't think it could hurt, could it? I could always just downgrade... Speaking of updating BIOS, every time I've flashed the BIOS I've gotten a CMOS Checksum Bad error... it only comes up once, and after running setup, it goes away, is this normal?
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