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I admittedly made a poor choice in memory and cooler, but my last serious overclocking was working with peltiers and alpha pal's. I will have to keep a eye on the temps when I start pushing the fsb. This rig is going to be something I use for the next few years. (overclocking is a hobby but I don't want to start popping caps anytime soon as for what I put down for it I can feed the kids for quite a bit, and don't want to be replacing parts) I seen a beast of a coolmaster cooler in an earlier post and it seems visually impressive, but when I got to looking at the specs it mentioned a 75 w peltier and with todays power usages for cpu's a 75 w peltier (tec) is as worthless as tits on a bull, worse than worthless actually as without a 125 to 150 w peltier its just going to pump heat back into the cooler. (read as thermal inversion)
If the zalman can keep everything under 50ºc under full load with a 900 or so mhz o/c and ambient temps in the 85º f range, I will probability not worry too much about it. Its not like when I was a single guy and was spray treating the motherboard and cutting up neoprene to go around and inside the sockets so I didn't have to worry about condensation when passing the vapor point while the computer waited to boot after the processor hit -5ºc. Now days I want a rock solid o/c that can go weeks without a reboot and isn't going to melt down components in 6 months. In reality the duron @1600mhz with a gf 4200 was overkill for counterstrike.. though I did pick up the crysis ME pack just for *****s and grins and will enjoy reinstalling farcry and running through it again. I expect UT3 to be silky smooth now also. ( it had some chunk factor with the xp 3000+ and the cheep 7600gs)
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Darth your post is way too long for me to read and I get a headache when I look at it, but the Zalman 9700 isn't that bad. My friend has one on a x3 720 and he is at 1.41v @ 3.6ghz. The load temps only go up to about 45 and he lives in California. You should have some good headroom with that cooler. It isn't that the Zalman isn't good, it's just compared to other coolers the Zalman is pretty inferior.
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Darth your post is way too long for me to read and I get a headache when I look at it, but the Zalman 9700 isn't that bad. My friend has one on a x3 720 and he is at 1.41v @ 3.6ghz. The load temps only go up to about 45 and he lives in California. You should have some good headroom with that cooler. It isn't that the Zalman isn't good, it's just compared to other coolers the Zalman is pretty inferior
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Spot on - I stand by the Zalman cause for 18 months it served me well but you can do better for the money
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I will try to keep a lid on the run on sentences..
As the money is already spent I will use the zalman unless it gives thermal issues. ( I did eyeball a TRUE earlier but lapping the base to outperform a Mugen 2 seems a bit much)


p.s. that Titan Fenrir is a sexy beast, but unless it has blue lights I will have a hard time selling it to the wife.
Honestly if it wasn't for the blue led's on the zalman I would have been stuck with the oem cooler I suspect. She already jacked my intended psu and changed the order to the OCZ GameXStream cause of the blue lights, now I will have to fight to get a new psu when I get the second Radeon HD 4870 X2....
but it will be very pretty when its all put together.. though with her love of pretty things I am just lucky she loves an old goat like me and should shut up and give thanks.
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Darth Llama, my friend, the Direct X 11 cards are coming out within a matter of a few days. Why don't you wait and see how they perform against the Radeon 4800 series cards. If there isn't much of a difference, and you have 400 dollars to spend on a GPU, buy two 4890s. They are wonderful cards. My Toxic overclocks like a beast and I am able to max out every game I play, except for the obvious (crysis). But even in Crysis I can pull off reasonable frames on max settings. I'll be getting 20-30 FPS, but it's still playable.

Long story short (sorry to get off topic I love bragging about my GPU), you should buy either a DX11 card when they come out in a few days, or a 4890 with the hopes of CFing them in the future. If you get a 4870x2, which don't get me wrong is a great card, you'll be limited to a trifire 4870 setup. If you're going big, trifire 4870 is quite a large step behind trifire 4890. You'll regret the 4870x2 for that reason, as well as the fact that it is mad expensive.

That's just my 2 cents. Good luck on the build!
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Thanks for the advice, I hadn't seen anything on the dx11 cards being released so soon. With that in mind I may wait a bit and just see if I can stick my old gf7600 in board for a bit while I get windoze installed, any idea if the pci-e 1.0 cards will work with a pci-e 2.0 slot? Its worth the wait if they coming out soon, even if I don't go for the dx11 cards they will have to drop the dx10 and dx10.1 card prices as soon as the dx 11's get to the e-retailers.
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Darth your post is way too long for me to read and I get a headache when I look at it, but the Zalman 9700 isn't that bad. My friend has one on a x3 720 and he is at 1.41v @ 3.6ghz. The load temps only go up to about 45 and he lives in California. You should have some good headroom with that cooler. It isn't that the Zalman isn't good, it's just compared to other coolers the Zalman is pretty inferior.
I take it you would suggest the Mugen 2? Care to trade?


Edit. Post #666 Ha!!
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Thanks for the advice, I hadn't seen anything on the dx11 cards being released so soon. With that in mind I may wait a bit and just see if I can stick my old gf7600 in board for a bit while I get windoze installed, any idea if the pci-e 1.0 cards will work with a pci-e 2.0 slot? Its worth the wait if they coming out soon, even if I don't go for the dx11 cards they will have to drop the dx10 and dx10.1 card prices as soon as the dx 11's get to the e-retailers.
Yeah the PCI-E 1.0 cards will work in PCI-E 2.0
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Thanks for the advice, I hadn't seen anything on the dx11 cards being released so soon. With that in mind I may wait a bit and just see if I can stick my old gf7600 in board for a bit while I get windoze installed, any idea if the pci-e 1.0 cards will work with a pci-e 2.0 slot? Its worth the wait if they coming out soon, even if I don't go for the dx11 cards they will have to drop the dx10 and dx10.1 card prices as soon as the dx 11's get to the e-retailers.
Not a problem. But it isn't something I should be awarded for, as EVERYONE on this site knows the DX11 cards are literally around the corner. Anyway, thanks for the rep!

I wouldn't suggest you buying two 4870x2's as quadfire doesn't scale well and you'd get the same, if not worse performance in quadfire rather than trifire. That's why 4890's seem to be the best option for you. And you're right, they will drop in price, so grab them cheap if you can. A trifire 4890, or even CF 4890 setup will last you years to come.

Also, the DX10.1 cards will support many features of DX11, just not all of them. Keep that in mind. If you want price/performance, 4890 is the way to go IMO, even with the DX11 cards coming out so soon.
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So im now 1 hour + stable at 3.6Ghz with my 720 Unlocked!

Need to get the voltages down though and then push for 3.8
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So im now 1 hour + stable at 3.6Ghz with my 720 Unlocked!

Need to get the voltages down though and then push for 3.8
Wow. Nice job there man. How are your temps and voltages so far?



EDIT: Just realized you had a thumbnail attached. 1.48 volts seems to making your chip hot as hell, but then again, you're running a stress test. I say watch those temps a bit, 57 is pushing it man. But nice job regardless, you got a nice chip, lucky chap!


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