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A good vs great overclocking mother board will have similar but suttle differences that make a world of difference when you have hardware tuned for the task of overclocking. You should be able to at minimum get a stable 100Mhz faster over your other motherboard. This board has a lot of options and I would think you could pull off an extra 100-200 MHz over your other board. You may need to use better ram and if that don't do the trick maybe water cooling will help a bit. Your voltage for 4GHz is pretty hight IMO.
Im sure its gonna make a difference on certain chips. Ive always suspected my memory was holding me back some, but this chip isnt going any farther. 3.8 stable at 1.475v is the best I can get stable. Heck its 1.425v by default. I just undervolt it to 1.38 and run at stock 3400mhz. I havent even been able to run a benchmark at 4000mhz on this board yet like my MSI 785gm-E51

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55c is good. i'd leave it. i think the max temp for the nb is 80c. not 100% sure. i've had mine at 80c before and its still alive.
MAX NB (i think its in the OP)

Is indeed 80c
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Anybody???

What is the NB temps on AMD Overdrive... see here my screenshot:


mention me the name it has in there too lol
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I'm going to upgrade from onboard audio to an audio card, but I need the space for the PCI-e x1 slot, and as such I need to move my video card from the PCI-e #1 slot to a different slot.

The manual words the arrangement of PCIE slots and their speeds a little glibly, and the fact that someone packed the European version of the manual with my board doesn't help either. I'll quote what it says under "Slots" on page En-3.

- 4 PCI Express Gen2 x16 slots, support CrossFireX(TM) technology
  1. the PCIE x16 slots (PCI_E1 & PCI_E4) support up to PCIE 2.0 x16 speed
  2. the PCIE x16 slots (PCI_E3 & PCI_E5) support up to PCIE 2.0 x8 speed
  3. if you intend to install four expansion cards into all PCIE x16 slots, these four PCIE x16 lanes will auto arrange from x16/ x16/ x0/ x0 to x8/ x8/ x8/ x8
- 1 PCI Express Gen2 x1 slot
- 2 PCI Slots


Now, given that the first two bullet points don't mention a "PCI_E2", I'll assume that "PCI_E2" is the x1 slot, and that "PCI_E4" is the third blue slot away from the CPU, or the second blue slot from the bottom, assuming you have the CPU arranged "On top" inside your tower. Am I on the right track so far? This is the slot I want to plug my singular video card in for maximum speed?
For the maximum 16x speed, the "top" slot and third slot from the "top" are the ones you should put it on. Though putting it on the second or fourth slot didn't hamper my FPS. The only noticeable difference with 8x speed was my GPU score would drop by about 1-4% in different benchmarks with no actual impact in a game. As I said a few pages back, I recommend the second slot(8x) or the third slot (16x) to prevent your GPU's heat from affecting your NB/CPU/RAM temps if you have an air-cooled setup.

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hey is it better to keep an eye on the cpu core temp, or cpu temp and with a phenom 955 C2 whats the max temp i should watch for? currently running p95 and cpu temp is maxing at 61c and core temp is sitting at 57c running system at 3.7 stock volt with 2800 NB stock volts and passed 1 cycle of p95
Wow, I'm amazed you can get to 3.7ghz on stock volts with a 955 C2, same for your NB speeds. Your temps are on the verge of "fail-safe" BSOD, since mine will BSOD on me when I reach 60-61°C on the CPU temp and 57-59°C on the core temps. I suggest focusing on the core temps, but for the record, the 955's max safe CPU temp is 61°C. Are you running stock fan or something? My stock voltage is 1.35V and I can run up to 3.6ghz with that voltage, except my temps max out in the high 40s/low 50s with P95/LinX.

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I was under the impression from information I read here in this thread, that Everest misreported the northbridge temps by 10 to 20 degrees, so I quit using it and have relied on AMD OD for my NB temps. With my new board, according to AMD OD, my NB hovers around 29c and it feels no warmer than my CPU heatsink that is reporting 28c. So I'm thinking it's anybodies guess. I do know that if it is running at truly @ 57c (134f) you'd be able to feel that to the touch.
That's interesting, since Everest and Speedfan report the same NB temps for me, especially when Everest reports more accurate voltage/amps readings than AOD does. Though I am curious where you find your NB temps in AOD as I haven't been able to find it at all.
    
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Does AMD's Over Drive software come bundled in the GD70 box? I have not opened my box yet.
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Does AMD's Over Drive software come bundled in the GD70 box? I have not opened my box yet.
Nah, but you can just download it off the AMD site. Here's the link.
    
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Don't forget that Professional and Ultimate can act as a virtual desktop, so it's capable of using Windows XP or any other supported OSes. This is something Home Premium cannot do.
Very True... Windows XP? What's that?

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And, also wanted to check whats the max voltage for the fan pins...I have a 6.12W Delta 38 mm. Will this run with the board pins?
I've had 2x Ultra Kaze 120x38mm @ 3k Rpm + 2x 120x25mm @ 2500Rpm + 2x 80mm @ 4k Rpm all on full and I was fine. Before that I had 6x 120x25mm @ 2K-3500Rpm with the 80mm @ 4K rpm at once.

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Couldent this cause the fan header to die on the mobo if he was to plug a fan into the mobo fan header and it was drawing to many amps/watts or what ever the power draw is?
I purchased one of these to run more than what I had... Still have but don't use it now.

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Now... I would like to know what software reads correctly the NB temps for this board?
With Everest 5.50.2909 beta it says that its around 55c - 57c is that correct? And what is the average on where its suppose to be or what you guys have as temps?

4Ghz & play with all the random settings... Mastiffman I'm still not gonna do the 3,000mhz test on the NB just yet.. i want to know if my temps are good currently on them being on stock or if I need to mod it(add some TIM & fans over it) and then i'll test with my 965 & my friends 955 with the 3k on NB.
55-57*+ is getting Very warm in my opinoin and will hinder performance in long run. Better to take the VRM/NB/SB Heat sink off and replace the TIM. I use AS5 which worked Great! Dropped my temps about 15*+. Even better at load. I never go above 45*C and that's full load for 12hours + in a warm room. (house is set to 70*F) I have used Everest 5.3 since it came out and it reads everything great.

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I'm going to upgrade from onboard audio to an audio card.......
What for? The Onbaord is lossless 24bit 192khz dual streaming.... What more do you need? If you are not using the board with an HTCP setup, you won't notice much a difference if at all (IMO). PLus you could put the money toward more GPU power or CPU Cooling... Just a thought.

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hey is it better to keep an eye on the cpu core temp, or cpu temp and with a phenom 955 C2 whats the max temp i should watch for? currently running p95 and cpu temp is maxing at 61c and core temp is sitting at 57c running system at 3.7 stock volt with 2800 NB stock volts and passed 1 cycle of p95
I normally only pay attention to the Core temps. The CPU is the Ambient temps I believe so it will run hotter being that it's not being cooled as well. IIRC....

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Anybody???

What is the NB temps on AMD Overdrive... see here my screenshot:


mention me the name it has in there too lol
I thought that with HWmonitor (the software) tempin 1 was the NB Temp. I would stick with Everest if I were you. AOD is known for being buggy in every aspect. At least the old ones are. Especially with temps. JMO though..

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Does AMD's Over Drive software come bundled in the GD70 box? I have not opened my box yet.
read above! lol- I don't think so but it's a free download anyhow....

What are you waiting for? Open her and take some shiney new pics for us!
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@ Rockr69
hey I forgot to ask.. which one is it in AMD Overdrive?
TMPIN3 is the NB readout.
    
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55-57*+ is getting Very warm in my opinoin and will hinder performance in long run. Better to take the VRM/NB/SB Heat sink off and replace the TIM. I use AS5 which worked Great! Dropped my temps about 15*+. Even better at load. I never go above 45*C and that's full load for 12hours + in a warm room. (house is set to 70*F) I have used Everest 5.3 since it came out and it reads everything great.


I already went ahead and replaced the TIM in them (about a few minutes ago, it was rough to take out the old crappy paste) with MX-3 but to be honest I did not see much of a difference probably around 5c... hopefully it will improve during these days of usage... I literally have really good ventilation in my case & those heatsinks feel really cold when I touch them with my fingers... so I still don't understand the temp reading from Everest & Speedfan it feels too cold to be at the supposed 50c-60c range... well I'll give it a few days to cure the paste... if not I'll use Shin-Etsu. My ambients get pretty warm if I don't turn on my AC they range between 87f to 93f :/

I think I'll do the adding small fans on to those heatsinks just incase
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Does AMD's Over Drive software come bundled in the GD70 box? I have not opened my box yet.
It came bundled in mine. It's on the driver disc.
    
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