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Well, I can say that I panicked a little bit.
I have got MSI Afterburner 2.1.0 beta 6 and I can offically confirm that voltage adjustment at my MSI 460 GTX works just fine!!!

The solution was very simple. It is even written in readme file for MSI AB.
For this card I can rise a voltage up every 0.013 mV. Default voltage is 1.012 and I tried to set it at 1.015 and the slider just went back to 1.012 when I hit apply button. So, another value that I can up my voltage is 1.025 mV and then 1.037 mV.

So far I could overclock it to almost 900 MHz but with 1.037 voltage and there were some artifacts (unfortunately).
Stable settings are:
Core = 875 (880) MHz
Shaders = 1750 MHz
Memory = 1910 MHz
Voltage = 1.025 mV

So, my 3D Mark 06 score would be now: 21020
I took a screenshot but ... unfortunately I cannot submit my results to ORB (you can guess why

I just wonder what is the maximum safe voltage for this card.
You wrote that you run your cards having 1.050 mV ... so, another step would be 1.063 mV.

What I noticed is that everytime I rised my clock CPU score (in 3D Mark 06) was higher also.

Now it's only a matter of overclocking my CPU to 4.2 GHz or 4.3 and give and memory to 1700 MHz

I can recommend that card to everyone. Last night I played "Dirt 2" with Max details, resolution 1920x1200 and MSAA x 8 (Vertical sync was on).
Average FPS was sth around 50-55, so it is not so bad for a Direct X 11 game.
Glad to hear you got it working. Just for reference 3d mark 06 only uses one core so you will for sure see and increase everytime your core speed goes up.
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i have 8GB (4 x 2GB) G.SKILL Ripjaws DDR3 1600 9-9-9-24-2N.

i'm not overclocking at all, just using default "auto" settings in BIOS.

should i change any DDR or NB voltages or anything else?

i ask because i'm getting strange lag in BFBC2:

the longer i play Battlefield Bad Company 2, the more local "lagg" i may experience. by local lagg (yes, an extra "g"), i mean my display may get somewhat skippy and my input control (mouse to on-screen movement sync) may "gap" every couple of seconds. for example, if i am slowly moving my mouse upward, the display will reflect the upward input smoothly for 1-2 seconds, freeze for a brief moment, then continue reflecting the upward input smoothly for another 1-2 seconds, freeze for a brief moment, repeat...

i say "may" because the lag may or may not happen. sometimes i can play for hours without any issues, while other times the lag occurs within ~10 minutes after launching the game. keep in mind i always reboot my system before launching the game.

i thought the problem may have been bogging software, so the other day i formatted the single hard drive Windows 7 was installed on and reinstalled Windows 7 on two different hard drives in a RAID 0 setup. lag still happens.

i thought the problem may have been outdated/bad drivers, so i manually installed the latest drivers for all hardware in and outside my system, including the mobo's NB/SB. lag still happens.

i thought the problem may have been an issue with the BIOS, so i updated it to the latest version. tried fail-safe defaults, optimized defaults, and custom BIOS settings. lag still happens.

that's why i'm now wondering if the problem has something to do with voltages.

i play @ my monitor's native resolution 1680x1050.

my system specs are as follows:

GPU:
CrossFire 2X 4890 1GB

CPU:
AMD Phenom II X4 965 QC 3.4GHz
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suggestions?
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@ n1kst3r are you running the most current version of the game.

Pendrago good job. I'm glad you got it figured out.
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Wow such a super clean build. Congrats on the great overclock as well!

Do you have the 3 holes on the bottom of the case for your PSU? I've been wanting to do a PSU hole mod as well, but haven't had the tools to do so. Any chance you can provide pics of it? Edit: this is directed towards your Intel build in case I wasn't clear about it.
Thanks man The 1200 does have a cable management hole but only 1 an not much room behind it! I have cut more holes to run fan cables an reverse the hard drives just used a dremel

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When did you get this CPU and which version is it? Also, What BIOS are you running?
It's a C3 I got about 3 weeks ago now as for the bios I'm not 100% sure but I think it is the latest.



Best I could do hope it helps you.
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@ n1kst3r are you running the most current version of the game.
yes, of course -- it's the Steam version so Steam updates it for me automatically.

is this board setup by default to handle 4 sticks of RAM or do i have to manually increase the voltage on the northbridge myself? and if i have to do it manually, how do i do so because all the voltage options in BIOS are "AUTO" and greyed out.
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Wow I just realised I was running a really old bios version that didn't even support my CPU lol. I'm on the latest now.

Done some testing with the new bios 4 hours of prime95 @ 4.3 1.45v no errors with the new bios which is exactly the same as before. I can't lower the vcore anymore otherwise it throws errors.

However with the new bios raid0 performance has greatly increased.
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Finally got this rig all finished running 24/7 at 4.3 1.45v in bios.
That's sounds fantastic! I mean really great. (you run your rig on the water... what are your load temp ? )

I did some test yesterday trying to hit 4173 MHz which I finally did --> http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1633282 but it wasn't stable

After second pass in LynX it gave me an error

Could you write down your exact BIOS configuration? What are your:

CPU V =
CpuNB V =
CPU DDR PHY =
DRAM =
NB V=
HT (eventually if you use it) =
SB =

and RAM configuration. Maybe it would be easier to take a photo and post it here?

Sth is missing in my configuration. I mean what I have noticed is that if I increase NB V too much whole performance is going down and there are errors.
Optimal (for my CPU) NB V is 1.17 V. My latest stable setting were:



Quote:
Wow I just realised I was running a really old bios version that didn't even support my CPU lol. I'm on the latest now.

Done some testing with the new bios 4 hours of prime95 @ 4.3 1.45v no errors with the new bios which is exactly the same as before. I can't lower the vcore anymore otherwise it throws errors.

However with the new bios raid0 performance has greatly increased.
That's really great. 4.3 with only 1.45 V is a quite decent score
I was thinking recently about setting some RAID configuration - that's the last thing which I haven't tweaked in my rig
What RAID configuration do you have? I have never set any RAID, so I am just curious which could be the best one. I have got two HDDs = 1x 500 GB Samsung Spinpoint and 1x1500 GB Seagate. I would like to buy another Samsung 500 GB and set RAID using these two disks but I would like to have Seagate running too.

BTW! My most recent 3DMark06 score is:



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Glad to hear you got it working. Just for reference 3d mark 06 only uses one core so you will for sure see and increase everytime your core speed goes up.
And that's why it is all useless ... I mean software designers should really optimise code for all benchmarking tools or even other software. Otherwise what is the point of overclocking your rig and having 4 cores or 6 or 8 (have you heard about Bulldozer CPU? ) if they don't use other cores? Only 1 is used in 3DMark? That's terrific! Eventually I could buy some Phenom II X2 565 Black Edition C3 3.4 GHz 2x 512 KB 6 MB 0.875 - 1.40 V TDP 80 W AM3 "Callisto" (C2/C3, 45 nm, Dual-core) and overclock it to 4.2 or higher and the performance might be the same.
Only in media transcoding or in graphic 3D rendering all four cores are used - correct me if I am wrong.
That is what really bugs me

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Pendrago good job. I'm glad you got it figured out.
Thanks I think it's pointless to increase voltgage more. 1.050 mV is enough and my stable settings are 890/1790/1910. There were artifacts after I applied 900 MHz.

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yes, of course -- it's the Steam version so Steam updates it for me automatically.

is this board setup by default to handle 4 sticks of RAM or do i have to manually increase the voltage on the northbridge myself? and if i have to do it manually, how do i do so because all the voltage options in BIOS are "AUTO" and greyed out.
It was written a few times at this forum and it's even written in FAQ section of OP -- > http://www.overclock.net/amd-motherb...ml#post6522077 ...

You can change (ajust) your voltage by using +/- keys at your keyboard
When I first got this board I was confused by it too but then helpful people who attend to this forum explained it to me (with a lot of patience and that's why I am grateful for this

It depends what configuration of your RAM you have set in BIOS and what is your Ram specification (max voltage you can set?)
I would try to test if your RAM generates no errors. Try Windows MemTest (anyone has deluxe version?) which is in attachment. Read manual first
Personally I start 4 instances of this program simultaneously and (in my case because I got 4 GB of RAM) I allot in every instance 750 MB of available memory (which is sth around 80 % of whole RAM capacity).
Maybe that will work for you.

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Conclusion

I would like to appologize for this extremely long post (hope you didn't get tired of reading my ... "brilliant" thoughts and for all of these pictures I uploaded (though I assume you have faster internet connection than me .
There should be (and I am aware of that fact) some "Compress whole text" button concerning to my posts
So, it had been better that I finish this post right now

One more thing (for all of people who would like to respond to my post) - just cut out pictures links from quotes ... to not double them
Thank you for your patience Greetz!!!
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And that's why it is all useless ... I mean software designers should really optimise code for all benchmarking tools or even other software. Otherwise what is the point of overclocking your rig and having 4 cores or 6 or 8 (have you heard about Bulldozer CPU? ) if they don't use other cores? Only 1 is used in 3DMark? That's terrific! Eventually I could buy some Phenom II X2 565 Black Edition C3 3.4 GHz 2x 512 KB 6 MB 0.875 - 1.40 V TDP 80 W AM3 "Callisto" (C2/C3, 45 nm, Dual-core) and overclock it to 4.2 or higher and the performance might be the same.
Only in media transcoding or in graphic 3D rendering all four cores are used - correct me if I am wrong.
That is what really bugs me
Most games use 4 cores some like Crysis only used 2 which is why it ran so badly no matter what you threw at it. Things are getting better though in the benchmark world. Vantage uses 4 cores and I have yet to test out 11 to see how many it uses but I would be willing to be either 4 or 8 is possible. The main advantages to multi-cpu procs is for encoding, and multi threaded "work" loads. I personally love that I can convert 50+ songs to MP3 in under 2 mins or convert and burn and entire DVD in under 15 mins. The problem is finding software that will use all your cores.
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pendrago I haven't really done anything special. My cpu vcore is 1.465v in bios (drops down to 1.43 at load) and the cpu/nb is at 1.36. The NB an SB are left on stock an the ram is just set to manufacturers setting 1.65v 8-8-8-24 that is basically all I have done.

Temps hovered around 57c during prime95 cause it was a stinking hot day yesterday (33c in my room) an the case was all closed up.

As for the raid it was easy to setup just set the drives to raid in bios the crtl f I think it was to actually set the drives up. The pain was installing win7 on the array! make sure you have the drivers handy if that's what you intend to do.
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Most games use 4 cores some like Crysis only used 2 which is why it ran so badly no matter what you threw at it.
And probably becasue it uses CryEngine 2

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Things are getting better though in the benchmark world. Vantage uses 4 cores and I have yet to test out 11 to see how many it uses but I would be willing to be either 4 or 8 is possible. The main advantages to multi-cpu procs is for encoding, and multi threaded "work" loads. I personally love that I can convert 50+ songs to MP3 in under 2 mins or convert and burn and entire DVD in under 15 mins. The problem is finding software that will use all your cores.
That's correct and that's what I was talking about. Maybe things are getting better but there is no such software or a game which could use full potential of 4 cores ( I mean there is but they are a few only. It's probably because all of producers or game developers find optimalization of games' engines as too expensive - I can assume that).
But let's be honest. Multi-core CPUs are available at computer market for 4 or 5 years. This process is certainly going too slow. We have hardware but we don't have the most important thing - software :/

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pendrago I haven't really done anything special. My cpu vcore is 1.465v in bios (drops down to 1.43 at load) and the cpu/nb is at 1.36. The NB an SB are left on stock an the ram is just set to manufacturers setting 1.65v 8-8-8-24 that is basically all I have done.

Temps hovered around 57c during prime95 cause it was a stinking hot day yesterday (33c in my room) an the case was all closed up.

As for the raid it was easy to setup just set the drives to raid in bios the crtl f I think it was to actually set the drives up. The pain was installing win7 on the array! make sure you have the drivers handy if that's what you intend to do.
So, basically you use only CPU V and CPU-NB V ... that's interesting. How did you set excactly 1.465 V in BIOS ? I can change it only in 0.01 V steps (with the latest release of BIOS) or is it reading from H/W Monitor ?

Well, I am worried about CPU-NB V ... 1.36 is a little too high for 24/7 use. Got to try to bump it up a little more.
Thanks for your reply
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