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that's a newegg review. enough said.
Agreed! you really have to take newegg reviews with a grain of salt. A lot of people are newbs and have no idea what they are doing! I guarantee your 250 GTS will work just fine.(by itself(no SLI))
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Okay so I did that and successfully booted and now my timings are at 7 7 7 20, but it still wont let me do 1600.
You may need to get the latest Beta bios to run those timings at 1600.
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You were able to do 1600 on auto correct? You might try bumping the CPU-NB(not NB) .1v higher then auto.( I believe 1.20) One thing we must remember is that 1600 is an OC for the IMC(internal memory controller) in these PII chips.
I was able to do 1600 by changing the fsb/dram ratio to 1:4, but with the auto timings, now with the new timings I am unable to get it to run like that, I bumped up the cpu-nb voltage to 1.2 and tried changing the fsb/dram ratio back to 1.4 and was unsuccessful.
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You may need to get the latest Beta bios to run those timings at 1600.
IIRC he is running the Official 1.5 bios. BTW where do you get the beta bios's

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I was able to do 1600 by changing the fsb/dram ratio to 1:4, but with the auto timings, now with the new timings I am unable to get it to run like that, I bumped up the cpu-nb voltage to 1.2 and tried changing the fsb/dram ratio back to 1.4 and was unsuccessful.
Just to clarify your stock rated settings for that ram(link would really help) is/are 1600Mhz 7-7-7-20-1t ? and what was the auto setting setting the timings at?
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BTW where do you get the beta bios's
http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/fo...ad.php?t=59825
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As to all of the available bios versions (thanks for putting that together Tony!), could someone make a suggestion as to what bios they are having the best luck with? I am currently on 1.4 (just got this board and haven't yet done anything bios related) and was wondering if anyone has any strong opinions about one over the other for stability and ease of o/c'ing.
I would use m-flash with a usb drive, any suggestions about that being fine or not. I do not have a floppy drive.

Also, can someone confirm with conviction whether or not ACC has any effect on the P II 965 (I know it is 'baked' into the P II's, but does manipulating it in bios do anything)? I had the MSI v1.5 with it enabled and set to +2 on all cores (the board did a weird self flash thing, unrelated to this, the other day and wouldn't post, so I exchanged it, hence the question about bios version above), and it seemed to clock a little easier as well as seemed to run a bit cooler @ higher voltages. Is this false readings and hope on my part, or is there actually something there?

Thanks for the help!

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As to all of the available bios versions (thanks for putting that together Tony!), could someone make a suggestion as to what bios they are having the best luck with? I am currently on 1.4 (just got this board and haven't yet done anything bios related) and was wondering if anyone has any strong opinions about one over the other for stability and ease of o/c'ing.
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Thanks for the help!

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Isn't AAC used to unlocking cores? If you have a 965 why do you need to unlock cores? All 4 are already unlocked.

Im not 100% sure, just what i've read and put together.
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My understanding about ACC, and it's a very limited understanding, is that in addition to providing a means for unlocking cores on x2 and x3 chips, it also provides a means for 'balancing' out the variances in each core, to provide stability at high o/c's. I read posts all over about people setting one core to 0, another to +2, etc... to gain stability in high stress situations with higher than average o/c's.
Mind you, I'm not referring to posts about the 965, but as I said in the previous post above, it seemed it was making the clock to 4.0 a bit easier for me when I enabled it to +2 on all cores for that short time I had it going.

One thing about it, though, is that I lost the ability to track the core temp with it enabled, I was only able to track the cpu temp. But, when I had it enabled at +2, it seemed the temps dropped about 4-6c (maybe a misreading, I don't know).

Any comments would be appreciated. I'm not so sure it isn't helpful with the 9x5's.

Also, any suggestions on what bios version to use right now for this board?

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My understanding about ACC, and it's a very limited understanding, is that in addition to providing a means for unlocking cores on x2 and x3 chips, it also provides a means for 'balancing' out the variances in each core, to provide stability at high o/c's. I read posts all over about people setting one core to 0, another to +2, etc... to gain stability in high stress situations with higher than average o/c's.
Mind you, I'm not referring to posts about the 965, but as I said in the previous post above, it seemed it was making the clock to 4.0 a bit easier for me when I enabled it to +2 on all cores for that short time I had it going.

One thing about it, though, is that I lost the ability to track the core temp with it enabled, I was only able to track the cpu temp. But, when I had it enabled at +2, it seemed the temps dropped about 4-6c (maybe a misreading, I don't know).

Any comments would be appreciated. I'm not so sure it isn't helpful with the 9x5's.

Also, any suggestions on what bios version to use right now for this board?

Marc
Ahh fair enough, yeah that makes sense. My knowledge of AAC is limted too, TBH my knowledge of all OCing is limited.
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The skinny on ACC
AMD has not yet said what it is actually for but they have hinted that it may "loosen the reigns" on the CPU and let it OC higher.

As for bios I would go with the 1.5 Official.
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