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post #581 of 2036
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Can steel be directly plated with no additional steps? I realize it is more expensive than aluminum, but it is also stronger. So perhaps because of the additional strength, you can mitigate the cost by using a thinner piece? And if it can be plated directly then it saves money on that process too which should make it comparable cost wise to an aluminum version.
Back in the day, we did steel backplates. Those were only for structural strengthening. We overthrew that concept with the Generation of Fury X and GTX 980, because nowadays components on graphics cards tend to get so hot that they actually benefit from additional cooling on the backside of the card. Now, we make our backplates from aluminium and thermaly connect them to the backside of the GPU, VRMs and (depending on model) RAM modules to provide this additional cooling. This functional effect would disappear if we changed back to steel.
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I already got an answer that the Titan Pascal water block is in development, but do you have any estimate for when it might be released? biggrin.gif
Very rough guesstimation: Late August / early September.

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Originally Posted by XNine View Post

Steel is not more expensive than aluminum, and in apples to apples comparison weighs about twice as much as aluminum at the same quantity. It also does not disperse heat will as aluminum.

When you have a waterblock that already weighs a few pounds, adding another 1/2 pound for a backplate isn't ideal.
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Any news on the next batch of back-plates to be in stock on your shop. As typical i went to order and there out of stock... rolleyes.gif
Yup. Will be listed as "in stock" monday around midday (german time).
post #582 of 2036
Hello all! I need some help in choosing the proper Heatkiller CPU block.

Note that I am also still somewhat new to watercooling but would like to change out the CPU block on my Swiftech AIO for something better. I am looking at getting the Heatkiller IV Pro but I am not sure which version works best.
First my guess is to stay away from the nickel plated copper one because I use Mayhems XT-1 in my loop and am in understanding that it does not work well with nickel plated metals. I was thinking the all copper one but I like the looks of the acrylic one and both the acetal ones.
I am wondering if there are differences in performance and lifespan between the different units.

What do you all suggest?

I have installed the Primochill UV bright blue tubing with some angled compression fittings. I am only cooling the CPU with this unit and when I was OCing this 4930k my temps were. Low 30's at idle and mid 50's to mid 60's under load at 4.3 ghz. Right now I am at stock CPU speeds and I run in the high 20's for daily use.
FYI my 4930k is limited to 4.3 ghz max as it BSOD's within minutes when stress testing at 4.4ghz and may run 20 mins until a BSOD when not stress testing. I lost the silicon lottery with this chip. But it runs great at 4.3ghz 24/7 with no issues at all. .
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post #583 of 2036
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Originally Posted by Madmaxneo View Post

Hello all! I need some help in choosing the proper Heatkiller CPU block.

Note that I am also still somewhat new to watercooling but would like to change out the CPU block on my Swiftech AIO for something better. I am looking at getting the Heatkiller IV Pro but I am not sure which version works best.
First my guess is to stay away from the nickel plated copper one because I use Mayhems XT-1 in my loop and am in understanding that it does not work well with nickel plated metals. I was thinking the all copper one but I like the looks of the acrylic one and both the acetal ones.
I am wondering if there are differences in performance and lifespan between the different units.

What do you all suggest?

I have installed the Primochill UV bright blue tubing with some angled compression fittings. I am only cooling the CPU with this unit and when I was OCing this 4930k my temps were. Low 30's at idle and mid 50's to mid 60's under load at 4.3 ghz. Right now I am at stock CPU speeds and I run in the high 20's for daily use.
FYI my 4930k is limited to 4.3 ghz max as it BSOD's within minutes when stress testing at 4.4ghz and may run 20 mins until a BSOD when not stress testing. I lost the silicon lottery with this chip. But it runs great at 4.3ghz 24/7 with no issues at all. .

Nickel is fine with Mayhems coolants, and actually I would recommend Mayhems X1 over XT-1 anyway unless you have subzero ambients in your computer room often. There is no real difference between the various versions of the Heatkiller IV Pro, aside from aesthetics. The Heatkiller IV Basic is a different design, less expensive and less performance.
post #584 of 2036
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

Nickel is fine with Mayhems coolants, and actually I would recommend Mayhems X1 over XT-1 anyway unless you have subzero ambients in your computer room often. There is no real difference between the various versions of the Heatkiller IV Pro, aside from aesthetics. The Heatkiller IV Basic is a different design, less expensive and less performance.

So stay away from the basic....lol. It seems the only ones I can find for my aging socket 2011 chip are the "copper & nickel" and the "pure copper". The nickel one will probably look better in my case but the copper may not look bad either. There was something I read about the nickel plating flaking off over time and disturbing the flow of the coolant. The copper corroded where the nickel flaked off though I am not definite it was with a Mayhems product.

The XT-1 I am using has been working great so far over the last 4 or 5 months since I started using it. Though TBH I did have an issue with some old Danger Dan UV tubing turning green which is when I got the Primoflex tubing. At first I thought it was the XT-1 causing the discoloration but it turns out it was just simply old tubing. I got it for a huge discount off an online store that had shut down more than a year prior to me ordering it.....lol. Consequently the Razor UV LEDs I got really cheap from the same sight work perfectly!
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post #585 of 2036
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Originally Posted by Madmaxneo View Post

So stay away from the basic....lol. It seems the only ones I can find for my aging socket 2011 chip are the "copper & nickel" and the "pure copper". The nickel one will probably look better in my case but the copper may not look bad either. There was something I read about the nickel plating flaking off over time and disturbing the flow of the coolant. The copper corroded where the nickel flaked off though I am not definite it was with a Mayhems product.

The XT-1 I am using has been working great so far over the last 4 or 5 months since I started using it. Though TBH I did have an issue with some old Danger Dan UV tubing turning green which is when I got the Primoflex tubing. At first I thought it was the XT-1 causing the discoloration but it turns out it was just simply old tubing. I got it for a huge discount off an online store that had shut down more than a year prior to me ordering it.....lol. Consequently the Razor UV LEDs I got really cheap from the same sight work perfectly!

XT-1 uses a glycol based composition which helps for anti-freeze properties, but also means it isn't very environmentally friendly and is not compatible with some materials used in this hobby. It is really best for low ambient conditions only, and no more.

I have had no issues with Watercool's nickel plating at all, but yeah the coolant and other materials used also contribute to it.
post #586 of 2036
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XT-1 uses a glycol based composition which helps for anti-freeze properties, but also means it isn't very environmentally friendly and is not compatible with some materials used in this hobby. It is really best for low ambient conditions only, and no more.

I have had no issues with Watercool's nickel plating at all, but yeah the coolant and other materials used also contribute to it.

So just to be on the safe side I will stay away from the nickel plated one.

Do you know of anywhere I can get the clear acrylic version of the Heatkiller IV Pro?
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post #587 of 2036
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Originally Posted by Madmaxneo View Post

So just to be on the safe side I will stay away from the nickel plated one.

Do you know of anywhere I can get the clear acrylic version of the Heatkiller IV Pro?

I think you just have to request that the stainless steel top cover is not installed in an acrylic top when placing an order directly from Watercool.
post #588 of 2036
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I think you just have to request that the stainless steel top cover is not installed in an acrylic top when placing an order directly from Watercool.
ah yes, direct from Germany shipping costs and all...lol.
I was hoping for someplace a little closer to home, but if that is the only place I can get an acrylic one then it will have to do.
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post #589 of 2036
post #590 of 2036
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Seems Performance PCs carries it: http://www.performance-pcs.com/heatkillerr-iv-pro-intel-processor-acryl-clean.html
That's odd I checked earlier and they only had the copper/nickel and the all copper ones in stock....
Awesome thanks for the link!
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