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The GTLv Ref. voltage lanes are in essence the cores talking to each other themselves Example: cell phone. If the voltages are too high, then their is signal noise/static. If the voltages are too low, then it's not getting enough voltage/signal, but if you find the sweet spot for each lane, the static is eliminated and the signal is strong and clear.

They are not something fun to tweak at all, but at higher FSBs it is a must. There are very technical articles about how they really work, but it's almost impossible to understand unless you have an engineering degree. I've read This and this.

It's alot of reading and alot of head scratching or least it was for me.

My experience is here. Basically read everything Cl3P02 wrote and go off of that.

More Reading from EVGa Forums
Edited by ChickenInferno - 7/21/09 at 7:43pm
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post #182 of 246
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2 (muffy) View Post
.... so can you sum up your temps before and after the TEC and what voltage and overclock your running?
System at 3.825GHz with 1.3625V (no vdroop), 450x8.5 and 1.4V VTT.
Maximum load temperatures after Five runs of LinX with 2048MB:

No TEC / TRUE only: 66°C CPU
TEC at 10V: 60°C CPU, 21°C Cold Plate, 44°C Hot Plate
TEC at 12V: 66°C CPU, 28°C Cold Plate, 48°C Hot Plate
TEC at 15V: 67°C CPU, 29°C Cold Plate, 55°C Hot Plate

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Originally Posted by ChickenInferno View Post
The GTLv Ref. voltage lanes are in essence the cores talking to each other themselves Example: cell phone. If the voltages are too high, then their is signal noise/static. If the voltages are too low, then it's not getting enough voltage/signal, but if you find the sweet spot for each lane, the static is eliminated and the signal is strong and clear.

They are not something fun to tweak at all, but at higher FSBs it is a must. There are very technical articles about how they really work, but it's almost impossible to understand unless you have an engineering degree. I've read This and this.

It's alot of reading and alot of head scratching or least it was for me.

My experience is here. Basically read everything Cl3P02 wrote and go off of that.

More Reading from EVGa Forums
Wow that EVGA guide is awesome! Thanks +rep again
post #183 of 246
oh ok well there's nothing wrong with 6c
post #184 of 246
I'm still hoping that something's not making good pressure and when that's fixed temps drop somewhere to 20C and don't move, but I'm sure Ray would have checked this a million times.
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post #185 of 246
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Yeah the pressure was fine. The contact on all parts was even and high, so I'm pretty positive that I just hit the wall when it comes to air cooling. unfortunately, funding is limited so I can't make any more progress on that behalf.

But now I'm pretty much stuck at OC'ing üast 450MHz FSB.
I upped the Vcore to 1.45V in 1.125V steps, VTT is at 1.325V and GTLSREV at +50mV on all positions, and nothing helps. The computer just freezes after a few seconds/minutes in LinX.
That's also another issue. I just don't get an instability error, the whole setup just freezes and I have to push the reset button...

I'm beginning to think that I am literally limited to 3.8GHz...
post #186 of 246
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All new images are being uploaded. All 75 of them...
post #187 of 246
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Aight, here we go (again)



Let's rewind to before the weekend. I'm shortly before insulating the XFX board for the TEC setup.
The contact surface between lapped die and lapped TRUE is awesome.





I unmounted everything and marked the area on the mobo's back that is to be sealed with conformal spray:



First two layers:



I put on four layers in total.
Time to get the backplate set up:





... and start getting the TEC ready too:







Then I covered up the mobo socket and applied conformal spray on the mobo front (two layers). i presume I made a mistake somewhere here, triggering the mainboard defective.



Then I used rubber glue around the socket's sides and inside, between the pins:




Then came the (I think) genius part of the insulation: cutting the neoprene for perfect fitment:










Layer 2:




Test fitting the TEC block



Third layer




Top cover, layer one



Top cover, layer two. Leaving just enough space for the TRUE's base


post #188 of 246
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With enough space between TRUE and mobo, I am also able to install a proper fan onto the SPP. Mounted with superglue.




As test fitting the CPU didn't go so well (it wasn't sitting in place evenly), I removed the rubber glue from the inside of the socket



...But later on I added a thinner layer of rubber glue again.
Let's insulate the CPU. First I taped off the pin connectors and the dies.




Then cut it into the proper size





Oh, and I added a thicker (10mm) piece of neoprene to the backplate, instead of the 3mm thick piece from before.




After spraying the CPU with conformal, I removed the tape again:



Perfect.


Then the bigger backplate arrived. Time to replace.





And I glued the temperature sensors to the hot and cold plates of teh TEC block.



Here I was using a hair dryer to speed up the glue drying:



This is going to be a HIGH PRESSURE fitment...




Applying TIM to the CPU (messy job, but it's insulated anyway)




Shoving the TEC block in place.



Messy TIM job on the TRUE



All in place:






Yes boys and girls: The mobo with CPU and cooling weighs 2.9kg!!!




Then I heard a loud crack...



Great.



Everything in place, including the monitoring.




My ghetto fix for the broken TRUE mount:






So the mobo turned on and everythign was running, but I got a blank screen and no beep...




So that's how far I came on the weekend.



Here are the pics of yesterday.

Old vs New



My fried Hard drive from the secondary PC. All my music, pictures, documents and files for the university are on it. Fantastic.



I'll try and get the same HDD off of ebay and try to replace the PCB. Does anyone have a Maxtor 6L300R0, by any chance?



Here's my entire "collection" I have right now:




GeForce 3 Ti200, EVGA 8600GTS, MSI 8600GTS+Musashi, GTX275's
Q9550, E5200 (broken), E1400, Duron 1800+, XFX 780i (broken), EVGA 780i FTW, lapped TRUE with broken mounting, new TRUE with new mounting
Asus K8N4-E (broken), Asus K8N4-E Deluxe with 3700+ and 9770NT, Asus P5N-E SLI with E5200 and Shuriken, ECS K7S5A (broken)



My ghetto fan shrouds, made of 25-disc cakebox covers:




Installed:






That's all, folks!
post #189 of 246
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Minor update:

Since the P5N-E SLI isn't working, I thought I'd just try out the XFX 780i SLI for fun in the secondary PC.

To my astonishment, it works!!! I'm currently setting up the BIOS, but I hav ethe E5200 mounted on the new TRUE with broken top bracket and a single 120mm fan, plus both 8600GTS in SLI
post #190 of 246
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Originally Posted by ChickenInferno View Post
I'm still hoping that something's not making good pressure and when that's fixed temps drop somewhere to 20C and don't move, but I'm sure Ray would have checked this a million times.

umm err no .. Never.. Well not with out cheating
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