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Here's my Quickfire TK (first mech keyboard I've owned) with some new orange blank keycaps from WASDkeyboards. I was worried as to how the LED's would shine through these but it turned out far better than I expected. I still plan to get a few other keycaps for Escape key and function row.

Sorry for phone pictures, I have nothing better frown.gif




Edited by Skrumpi - 5/26/13 at 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by ElevenEleven View Post

Different batches of switches can have differences in feel. It's the actual switches--not what they are mounted on--that will give the scratchy feeling. Cherry makes all the switches, so it does not matter if it's Ducky or CM--a brown switch is a brown switch. Your Ducky can well have a batch of Browns with less friction. My Filco (discontinued limited edition pink TKL) has fairly scratchy MX Blacks, whereas a Filco TKL with MX Browns I've tried was butter smooth. Tried 5-6 different boards with MX Blacks, and all had more or less friction. Some had a good noticeable amount, and that Filco had by far the least (unnoticeable friction). All are Cherry switches, and Filco does not do anything to them, nor CM. The friction is from the switch moving along the stem, not really from the spring.
I agree, blues are not quieter than browns smile.gif And I've tried both with o-rings. The click in the blues does not disappear with o-rings. Browns have no click and are thus quieter. Bottoming out will sound the same on both switches.

Ok, that explains a lot. I was certainly reaching for a reason trying to find the cause. My first thought was that it was a different batch of Browns, but that just seemed to me to be too easy of an answer LOL. Doesn't explain the audible difference though. I would have to attribute that to the keycap?
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Haven't really read everything posted so what I say might be off.
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Different batches of switches can have differences in feel. It's the actual switches--not what they are mounted on--that will give the scratchy feeling. Cherry makes all the switches, so it does not matter if it's Ducky or CM--a brown switch is a brown switch. Your Ducky can well have a batch of Browns with less friction. My Filco (discontinued limited edition pink TKL) has fairly scratchy MX Blacks, whereas a Filco TKL with MX Browns I've tried was butter smooth. Tried 5-6 different boards with MX Blacks, and all had more or less friction. Some had a good noticeable amount, and that Filco had by far the least (unnoticeable friction). All are Cherry switches, and Filco does not do anything to them, nor CM. The friction is from the switch moving along the stem, not really from the spring.
I agree, blues are not quieter than browns smile.gif And I've tried both with o-rings. The click in the blues does not disappear with o-rings. Browns have no click and are thus quieter. Bottoming out will sound the same on both switches.

You can always lube your switches to have them butter smooth biggrin.gif Lubed Reds feel pretty amazing.

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Ok, that explains a lot. I was certainly reaching for a reason trying to find the cause. My first thought was that it was a different batch of Browns, but that just seemed to me to be too easy of an answer LOL. Doesn't explain the audible difference though. I would have to attribute that to the keycap?

It can come down to a variety of things. Keycaps, Plate type, if it has a plate at all, o-rings, o-ring sizes, Switch springs. It really depends the noises you hear.
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Haven't really read everything posted so what I say might be off.
You can always lube your switches to have them butter smooth biggrin.gif Lubed Reds feel pretty amazing.
It can come down to a variety of things. Keycaps, Plate type, if it has a plate at all, o-rings, o-ring sizes, Switch springs. It really depends the noises you hear.
That was in reply to someone biggrin.gif

Different keycap material and shape will contribute to differing density and weight and thus sound transmission properties. There are minute differences between Thin PBT, Thin ABS, Thick PBT, and double-shot ABS (and other types, like metal caps, or POM caps, etc., etc). They won't add to friction--that's on the switches alone. But heavy caps, like zinc, will definitely make actuation significantly easier and will feel and sound differently. Don't know if there'd be much difference in keycaps between your Filco and Ducky, as both are ABS and OEM-profile. Could be the Shine ABS is less dense as it's transparent and painted... dunno, just guessing.
   
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Haven't really read everything posted so what I say might be off.
You can always lube your switches to have them butter smooth biggrin.gif Lubed Reds feel pretty amazing.

It's all about the lubed Clears. I've got 80 lubed clears with oiled 67g Korean springs for my GH60 and they're amazing feeling.

And because I'm proud of my work, I want to show off the hand turned wooden key cap pullers I'm making. The wire is on the way, but right now I have a few handles turned (did four of them so far today).

Birch handle finished with natural Danish oil:



Birch handle finished with boiled linseed oil:



I also plan on making some with Cherry, Walnut, and Maple.
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<3

That looks amazing, is that yours?
did you get a separate case for that?

I am thinking to powder coat the keyboard case since I to buy a separate case for filco is kinda expensive (seen on GH)
but not sure wheter the filco emblem can be remove
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Yeah it is mine. No it came like that--it's a limited edition from a couple years ago. Unfrotunately it's just paint--the case is not actually made of metal. It's room-temperature plastic painted in metallic pink. I'm getting a ducky shine II TKL which I'll probably paint--not powder coat, just rattle cans. I can't stand black, as it's rather boring, so I try to have as little black as possible. Most of the electronics have been black for too long (breaking into white lately, thanks to Apple, but still...)
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Looks like the Shine II it is, thanks for the help guys. Sampler idea was also a good suggestion however it looks like browns are up my alley for the quieter approach, may or may not forgo the sampler. +Reps
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That was in reply to someone biggrin.gif

Different keycap material and shape will contribute to differing density and weight and thus sound transmission properties. There are minute differences between Thin PBT, Thin ABS, Thick PBT, and double-shot ABS (and other types, like metal caps, or POM caps, etc., etc). They won't add to friction--that's on the switches alone. But heavy caps, like zinc, will definitely make actuation significantly easier and will feel and sound differently. Don't know if there'd be much difference in keycaps between your Filco and Ducky, as both are ABS and OEM-profile. Could be the Shine ABS is less dense as it's transparent and painted... dunno, just guessing.
I realise that, I was just stating lubed reds feel amazing smile.gif

However I would argue that key caps make a fairly significant sound difference. The thicker the key caps the more of a thonk sound.
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It's all about the lubed Clears. I've got 80 lubed clears with oiled 67g Korean springs for my GH60 and they're amazing feeling.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
And because I'm proud of my work, I want to show off the hand turned wooden key cap pullers I'm making. The wire is on the way, but right now I have a few handles turned (did four of them so far today).

Birch handle finished with natural Danish oil:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Birch handle finished with boiled linseed oil:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

I also plan on making some with Cherry, Walnut, and Maple.

I was using lubed Ergo clears for a little before switching back to browns. I'm not a huge fan of the tactile bump clears have. I assume you could guess that for my hate for blues and love for lubed reds.
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