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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post

Blues actually have a heavier spring (50cN vs 45cN) and slightly larger tactile bump. The other things you mentioned about the slider and the sound are true, but even if not for those bits, the blues would still be more tactile and heavier (although you might only notice the heavier part, since the heavier spring means you need a larger bump for it to feel roughly the same).

Also, as you say, ergo Clears have a MUCH more noticeably bump than browns, blues, or even normal clears.

As for the switch life in years... theres no solid number. everyone uses them differently, and some are just not made as well as others. I've killed a couple cherry blue switches in under 4 years despite being very gentle with them and cleaning them literally 1-2 times daily. On the other hand I still have a perfectly functioning Saitek Eclipse 2 (rubber dome board) from like 8 years ago with way more use on it that is working fine.

Blues, Reds, and Browns all have the same spring and they're interchangeable. Go ask anyone on GH or Deskthority and they'll say the same thing as me on that as would Ripster. You're quoting the force for actuation, not the spring weight. Blues have a marginally bigger bump on the leg resulting in a slightly higher actuation force. The only way for you to directly compare the tactility between the two would be to do Jailhouse Blues next to Browns. Even then it would be tough since the bump would occur much sooner and higher on the Jailhouse Blues than the Browns. Interesting side note, Jailhouse Blues were originally created to try and create a "ghetto" Brown.

I would know, I have and RK9000 modded to Ergo Clears and have played around with them quite a bit with different spring weights.

Why would you clean a switch that often? Just lube your switch, close it up, solder them all in place, and leave them be.
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I personally wouldn't put rings on a tactile switch. As far as I'm concerned, the whole point of a tactile switch is to know when you've actuated and can stop applying force. Without some extra space under the actuation point, there isn't enough tolerance for human response time, key variance, etc.

To put it another way, orings don't do anything unless you bottom out, and you shouldn't be bottoming out tactile switches to begin with.

Could be just me though.I do love some heavy rings on blacks, although I'm not crazy about blacks overall so I guess that's a bit moot.
Well, I find that on the IBM model M, despite the very little room below the key, I can still feel when it actuates and not bottom out the key fully, or at least not bottom out the key hard enough to feel it.
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Blues, Reds, and Browns all have the same spring and they're interchangeable. Go ask anyone on GH or Deskthority and they'll say the same thing as me on that as would Ripster. You're quoting the force for actuation, not the spring weight. Blues have a marginally bigger bump on the leg resulting in a slightly higher actuation force. The only way for you to directly compare the tactility between the two would be to do Jailhouse Blues next to Browns. Even then it would be tough since the bump would occur much sooner and higher on the Jailhouse Blues than the Browns. Interesting side note, Jailhouse Blues were originally created to try and create a "ghetto" Brown.

I would know, I have and RK9000 modded to Ergo Clears and have played around with them quite a bit with different spring weights.

Why would you clean a switch that often? Just lube your switch, close it up, solder them all in place, and leave them be.

I clean the board that frequently, not the switches themselves, sorry for the confusion.
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I decided to switch back to the quickfire rapid, since the Model M seems to have a bit of delay, which is horrific if you are trying to stutter step in Counter Strike. I also wasn't really digging the massive size and 2KRO either.

My main problems with this keyboard were that the space bar was really weak feeling, and also that MX blue keys have way too much space below the key for my taste. I assume I could go for some O-rings, but I have no idea what to do about the space bar. Any ideas?

edit: where is a good place to buy PBT keycaps?
Edited by Art Vanelay - 7/21/13 at 4:24pm
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Is this a good keyboard? http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=leopold,fullsize&pid=fc500rlab . I like quiet keyboards so I'm probably going to put o-rings on them smile.gif
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I just fit thick ABS keycaps with a mix of doubleshots and tripleshots onto my beloved Topre wubsmiley.gif

Where did you get doubleshot and tripleshot keycaps for topre from?
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They weren't meant to fit on Topre, but I found very high quality keycaps on an old typewriter with similar stem design to Topre and they fit pretty much perfectly. The profile is different so it actually changes the feel of the keys itself-they feel quite a lot stiffer and crisp at the top of the key. As much as I'm loving these keys, I'll probably be auctioning them off on Geekhack so I can get an ErgoDox. By the way, I was told that there are very few tripleshots out there, very cool! (The tripleshots are the ones with green)
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Ah that's awesome. I thought that they must have been from something quite old and different. Tripleshots are quite rare indeed, what a great find you have there.
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This thread needs more Topre smile.gif. Just got these key caps from EliteKeyboards.


Edited by trhead - 7/22/13 at 11:00pm
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Hm... now I'm having trouble deciding if I want to wait for a ducky (shine 3 or zero tkl), or go for a CM stealth edition. Or, even just something else to many decisions haha.
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