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I can buy them for 60SGD direct for china, i bought my RK9000 for 99SGD but you didn't consider quality since you haven't bought one before ...
I bought a keycool 87 PBT last week only to sell it off today. In short, i hate it. The key font looks horrid on the arrows, it flexes quite a bit certainly the rosewill is made by costar
And the keys that need stabilizers are a bit stiff mad.gif

I haven't said anything about it because i'd rather leave it unmentioned. Not worth mentioning, sure it still feels okay compared to the BWU

Keycool also has Costar boards http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=43143.msg920703#msg920703
Rosewill doesn't offer anything except full size AFAIK which isn't ideal for most people, especially gamers. imo the Rosewill logo is far more ugly than the Keycool keyboard, it makes the RK9000 look like a $2 membrane without the WASD and arrow cluster and Esc keys.
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So a few pages back, I promised to post pics of some keycaps I ordered from geek_feng on eBay. Just now had time to get some pics in natural light.

Here's a pic of the keycaps on my keyboards:

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the way both sets look. The colors on the rainbow set look a little paler than what's shown in the product images on eBay, and I had a lot of trouble trying to discern the green keys from the light yellow ones. They're actually paler in-person than in my picture. I guess they just photograph really well?

For comparison, here's what was shown in the eBay listing:
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Nevertheless, I like the way they look with LEDs on:

You can't really see it in pictures, but the molding around the stem actually shows through when backlighting is on, even on the lowest setting. It's most noticeable on the R1, numpad +, and numpad enter keys. I wish this wasn't the case, but it's not a huge bother. Also, I ended up keeping the default Ducky spacebar; the spacebar in the set kept getting stuck in the down position when pressed.


For some reason, the caps lock key is a slightly different shade of white. This is most noticeable when caps lock is toggled, which thankfully isn't often. The set also included a stepped caps lock key that is the same shade as the other white keys, I may just switch to that.

As I mentioned before, the "white" PBT caps I got are not quite off-white. Here's a comparison with one of my other white keys:


I didn't show a comparison from the tops of the keys, since the top of the bright white key is mostly covered with a graphic. Without any other white keys present, the off-white shade is not noticeable. I was originally hoping to use the bright white key with the white PBT set, but the color difference becomes pretty obvious when they are on the same keyboard together. Oh well, they are different heights anyway.
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I get that it makes no sense to get a BWU because it is overpriced, but when a BWT can be found for $65-70 new often, then it is a good competitor for the QFR. It has some pros and cons to the QFR though.
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I get that it makes no sense to get a BWU because it is overpriced, but when a BWT can be found for $65-70 new often, then it is a good competitor for the QFR. It has some pros and cons to the QFR though.

You trade quality for size, macro keys, and backlighting. That is a pretty fair trade that depends on user preference I'd say. Question is, can you REALLY get a new one for $65 regularly? once in a blue moon doesn't really count when that is normal (non sale) price for the QFR.
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You aren't realizing that I'm referencing the BlackWidow Tournament. It isn't the ultimate, it's a TKL with no backlighting, no macros. It has been $70 on Newegg for months. And newegg has had open box stocked for $52 for a while.

It is the same kind of board as the QFR, just has a more stylized body, a more matte finish, a glowing logo, a slightly nicer sleeved cable, a different secondary function key (media keys and such) layout, and slightly thinner keycaps.
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You aren't realizing that I'm referencing the BlackWidow Tournament. It isn't the ultimate, it's a TKL with no backlighting, no macros.

It is the same kind of board as the QFR, just has a more stylized body, a more matte finish, a glowing logo, a slightly nicer sleeved cable, a different secondary function key (media keys and such) layout, and slightly thinner keycaps.

I wasn't aware that razer had released a TKL board. I had assumed the BWT was just the name of their newest revision of the BWU similar to the onza and the onza tournament, etc.

At any rate, the QFR offers excellent quality at a consistently low price. If this BWT doesn't offer full size, macro keys, and backlighting... then it's hard to see why you would want to pay more, or even the same for it as you could get the QFR. Razer would have had to seriously increase their quality and reduce their pricing to match the QFR in any objective qualities.

I suppose cosmetic preference is always a factor, but if you're gonna use that as a point of recommendation, we should have some hello-kitty colored boards on the list due to being a fairly popular cosmetic theme for female users.
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I wasn't aware that razer had released a TKL board. I had assumed the BWT was just the name of their newest revision of the BWU similar to the onza and the onza tournament, etc.

At any rate, the QFR offers excellent quality at a consistently low price. If this BWT doesn't offer full size, macro keys, and backlighting... then it's hard to see why you would want to pay more, or even the same for it as you could get the QFR. Razer would have had to seriously increase their quality and reduce their pricing to match the QFR in any objective qualities.

I suppose cosmetic preference is always a factor, but if you're gonna use that as a point of recommendation, we should have some hello-kitty colored boards on the list due to being a fairly popular cosmetic theme for female users.

BWT is a model in the Blackwidow line, the full size version of a BWT is the Blackwidow itself. The BWT itself is a lot cheaper than a QFR with blues right now, $20 less at $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114029 AFAIK there are no sales going on for the QFR, though they do happen very often. People should have their choices here, $60 for a TKL mechanical keyboard is really not bad. Though nothing rivals the value of the QFR, and there's a reason why Ducky, KBT and other companies still sells so well. Razer keyboards should still be considered, the BWT in specific has a better looking case if you don't mind the size and the good-looking logo with green LED's.

By the way, if you have one of those kid-themed keyboards, I'd be willing to pay big money for it, specifically a Filco Dino.
Edit: QFR is $75 on Amazon, not $80 like on newegg.
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BWT is a model in the Blackwidow line, the full size version of a BWT is the Blackwidow itself. The BWT itself is a lot cheaper than a QFR with blues right now, $20 less at $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114029 AFAIK there are no sales going on for the QFR, though they do happen very often. People should have their choices here, $60 for a TKL mechanical keyboard is really not bad. Though nothing rivals the value of the QFR, and there's a reason why Ducky, KBT and other companies still sells so well. Razer keyboards should still be considered, the BWT in specific has a better looking case if you don't mind the size and the good-looking logo with green LED's.

By the way, if you have one of those kid-themed keyboards, I'd be willing to pay big money for it, specifically a Filco Dino.
Edit: QFR is $75 on Amazon, not $80 like on newegg.

Someone needs to tell Razer that their KB font is disgusting. Other than that, I have to agree it is one of the prettier TKL boards I've seen (Although I still think the pure and race are just visually worlds sexier, but they don't really count as they are disgusting PCB mounts).

The real question though it quality. Between my X-Armor U(BL and my friends BWU, my X-Armor is the winner quality wise... and that's just sad considering how openly hated the X-Armor line is. The QFR on the other hand I've only seen truly surpassed by boards which are no longer in production with metal casings and keycaps. The BWT has got to be worlds better than it's full size brothers (which might be the case, I honestly have no idea, but I'm doubtful) if it's going to compete with the QFR on any level other than cosmetics.
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So a few pages back, I promised to post pics of some keycaps I ordered from geek_feng on eBay. Just now had time to get some pics in natural light.

Here's a pic of the keycaps on my keyboards:

Overall, I'm pretty happy with the way both sets look. The colors on the rainbow set look a little paler than what's shown in the product images on eBay, and I had a lot of trouble trying to discern the green keys from the light yellow ones. They're actually paler in-person than in my picture. I guess they just photograph really well?

First review I've seen for the rainbow keycaps
to be honest I never have the guts to order keycaps from China
nevertheless well reviewed!
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Someone needs to tell Razer that their KB font is disgusting. Other than that, I have to agree it is one of the prettier TKL boards I've seen (Although I still think the pure and race are just visually worlds sexier, but they don't really count as they are disgusting PCB mounts).

The real question though it quality. Between my X-Armor U(BL and my friends BWU, my X-Armor is the winner quality wise... and that's just sad considering how openly hated the X-Armor line is. The QFR on the other hand I've only seen truly surpassed by boards which are no longer in production with metal casings and keycaps. The BWT has got to be worlds better than it's full size brothers (which might be the case, I honestly have no idea, but I'm doubtful) if it's going to compete with the QFR on any level other than cosmetics.

Unfortunately the QFR also has a terrible 1337 g4m3r font. I do have to say we're going to need someone who has owned both boards to help bring clarity here. At the moment however 60$ is i think the cheapest board besides the monoprice one. I'm not sure if this could warrant an all the time recommendation but it might do well at this very moment.
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