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Originally Posted by Zero4549 View Post


I wasn't aware that razer had released a TKL board. I had assumed the BWT was just the name of their newest revision of the BWU similar to the onza and the onza tournament, etc.

At any rate, the QFR offers excellent quality at a consistently low price. If this BWT doesn't offer full size, macro keys, and backlighting... then it's hard to see why you would want to pay more, or even the same for it as you could get the QFR. Razer would have had to seriously increase their quality and reduce their pricing to match the QFR in any objective qualities.

I suppose cosmetic preference is always a factor, but if you're gonna use that as a point of recommendation, we should have some hello-kitty colored boards on the list due to being a fairly popular cosmetic theme for female users.
Yeah the Quickfire Rapid isn't full size or backlit either. And it's more expensive. You can use macros with both the QFR and the BWT but there are no dedicated macro keys on either. Let me put it more clearly

QFR:
Slight better quality, non-internet (but lower function) software, thicker keycaps, slightly better font, simpler design, spare WASD keycaps, less matte finish, different media layout, higher price

BWT:
slightly lower quality, cloud-based and more featureful software, slightly thinner keycaps, slightly worse font, flashier design, no extra keycaps, matte finish, different (better?) media key layout, lower price.
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First review I've seen for the rainbow keycaps
to be honest I never have the guts to order keycaps from China
nevertheless well reviewed!

They are Keycool caps if I remember correctly. You don't really have anything to worry about with that. In fact, there are a lot of awesome caps you can get off of taobao like some nice KBC caps.
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They are Keycool caps if I remember correctly. You don't really have anything to worry about with that. In fact, there are a lot of awesome caps you can get off of taobao like some nice KBC caps.
I've been eyeing gold keycaps
thing is, its so hard to understand Taobao site even with google translate
the proxy agent doesnt even help

Edit: Just realize your name from GH, love your work on wooden puller! smile.gif
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First review I've seen for the rainbow keycaps
to be honest I never have the guts to order keycaps from China
nevertheless well reviewed!

I should mention that these are blank POM rainbow keycaps. I've seen a few other rainbow sets, including the ones made by Keycool, but they all had legends on them.
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BWT is a model in the Blackwidow line, the full size version of a BWT is the Blackwidow itself. The BWT itself is a lot cheaper than a QFR with blues right now, $20 less at $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114029 AFAIK there are no sales going on for the QFR, though they do happen very often. People should have their choices here, $60 for a TKL mechanical keyboard is really not bad. Though nothing rivals the value of the QFR, and there's a reason why Ducky, KBT and other companies still sells so well. Razer keyboards should still be considered, the BWT in specific has a better looking case if you don't mind the size and the good-looking logo with green LED's.

By the way, if you have one of those kid-themed keyboards, I'd be willing to pay big money for it, specifically a Filco Dino.
Edit: QFR is $75 on Amazon, not $80 like on newegg.
AAND any razer product quality is crappy. Just ask my friend who has a first-gen BW and another friend who just had his Razer headset (can't remember which) break after a year despite costing a bomb
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AAND any razer product quality is crappy. Just ask my friend who has a first-gen BW and another friend who just had his Razer headset (can't remember which) break after a year despite costing a bomb

Hmm... so two cases each of a single unrelated product out of a lineup of like 80 or so products each with at least 3 revisions spanning multiple manufacturers is a definitive indicator of the quality of their entire catalog?

So, you know Intel has had retrograde degenerative bugs in it's chipset drivers at least twice within the same generation as your Xeon? Kingston HyperX modules have had several completely defective batches clear QC and ship to customers, Gigabyte released specifically your UD5 motherboard with flawed firmware flashing utilities that could destabilize intel RAID arrays and BIOS firmware that could erase SSD data, and oh wait what's that? Oh you poor soul you own a Razer Goliathus (despite apparently not owning a mouse, which is a bit odd and all but lets look past that last bit).


Seriously though, I have no great love of Razer, but some statements are just too false to let fly.
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AAND any razer product quality is crappy. Just ask my friend who has a first-gen BW and another friend who just had his Razer headset (can't remember which) break after a year despite costing a bomb

The DA2013 is one of the best FPS mice on the market right now sensor-wise and they have the shape pretty well done. Their Goliathus mousepads are used by a countless number of gamers, no complaints there either. Most people don't seem to be having QC issues with the Blade either.
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Hmm... so two cases each of a single unrelated product out of a lineup of like 80 or so products each with at least 3 revisions spanning multiple manufacturers is a definitive indicator of the quality of their entire catalog?

So, you know Intel has had retrograde degenerative bugs in it's chipset drivers at least twice within the same generation as your Xeon? Kingston HyperX modules have had several completely defective batches clear QC and ship to customers, Gigabyte released specifically your UD5 motherboard with flawed firmware flashing utilities that could destabilize intel RAID arrays and BIOS firmware that could erase SSD data, and oh wait what's that? Oh you poor soul you own a Razer Goliathus (despite apparently not owning a mouse, which is a bit odd and all but lets look past that last bit).


Seriously though, I have no great love of Razer, but some statements are just too false to let fly.
I thought the nature of our chat was about their gaming peripherals? Not everything? My problem with razer is not that only me (who has bought their BW in the past, what a idiot i was) but the friends around have had their razers failing.
Add to the overpriced nature of them
Perhaps you didn't know that Intel, Kingston and Gigabyte took steps to rectify their mistakes. Crap happens and they rectified it. But razer? They didn't fix my BW even if it broke repeatedly, like 5 times in a year ... I just threw it out of the window after that
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The DA2013 is one of the best FPS mice on the market right now sensor-wise and they have the shape pretty well done. Their Goliathus mousepads are used by a countless number of gamers, no complaints there either. Most people don't seem to be having QC issues with the Blade either.
My friend bought a DA2012 ... broke 6 months in. And that was with low-usage. RMA'd AND BROKE TWICE.
I use a goliathus myself ... love the low-price i got it for but hate the fact that it took 2 rounds of cleaning it to get rid of the trapped particles. I don't have such a problem with the Sargas 900 i usually keep elsewhere as i still want to use the goliathus
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I thought the nature of our chat was about their gaming peripherals? Not everything? My problem with razer is not that only me (who has bought their BW in the past, what a idiot i was) but the friends around have had their razers failing.
Add to the overpriced nature of them
Perhaps you didn't know that Intel, Kingston and Gigabyte took steps to rectify their mistakes. Crap happens and they rectified it. But razer? They didn't fix my BW even if it broke repeatedly, like 5 times in a year ... I just threw it out of the window after that
My friend bought a DA2012 ... broke 6 months in. And that was with low-usage. RMA'd AND BROKE TWICE.
I use a goliathus myself ... love the low-price i got it for but hate the fact that it took 2 rounds of cleaning it to get rid of the trapped particles. I don't have such a problem with the Sargas 900 i usually keep elsewhere as i still want to use the goliathus

Perhaps you and your friends are just getting bad batches. I'm not a big fan of Razer. In-fact, I support Logitech far above Razer; However, I've owned my Razer BlackWidow Ultimate for close to three years now and it works as if it's brand new. Never had driver problems, never had ANYTHING go wrong with it. I also own the DA2013, which is an amazing mouse. I switched to it cause I needed a new mouse at the time (I went through a couple of mice before this Logitech G5, G400, G500, and G700- of course, throughout all the years). I play a lot of competitive gaming (used to play Counter-Strike: Source in CAL-I and CAL-IM) and still play Team Fortress 2 (UGC Silver League), so my peripherals tend to wear down real fast, but so far, all my Razer products are doing quite fine, even after all the usage they're taking. The ONLY Razer product I ever experienced to be crap was their Carcharias. That headset was pretty flimsy and the wires worn down and volume knob broke after a year of use, but of course, the Charcharias is one of their cheaper products, so the outcome wasn't surprising.

In-the-end, I still prefer Logitech products, but I've yet encountered anything truly negative about Razer products other than their higher end prices.
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And did you try to get razer to fix it? In what way did it break? Razer RMA'd a very slightly faulty controller I bought from them without an issue. Had a new controller in 7 days from when I shipped my old one out. It had been like 8 months since I bought it.
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