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autohotkey FTW, I have nearly two pages of scripts that I run. its super useful for mapping and you can get pretty deep with it.

If you need help writing out some scripts, let me know.

It's very simple for my use. For everyday use there are I'd like to swap left alt and windows key, since this new keyboard has the mac layout and has it backwards. With that you just type
Lalt::Lwin
Lwin::Lalt

For gaming I'd want to disable alt tab and windows key, for that you just type
!tab=return
Lwin=return

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Ooo..you gotta teach me. I tried to learn but every time i do my vision gets blurry and i just pass out. It's not so important now but still a nice thing to have

Share some of what you use.
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Just picked up my HHKB Type-S yesterday. Love it! thumb.gif

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I've used them, thought they were pretty decent. Lubing them eliminates the sticking issue unless you really hit one off center, after that they honestly feel like short-travel MX Browns to me.

I'll lube my ML4100's switches and see how much better it gets. I'm one of few who strongly dislikes MX Browns too.

like... how strongly? i was also fairly opposed to them, but then i picked up a Das Pro for cheap. After i cleaned it, i lubed just the stabs and put DSA Dolch on it with a PBT spacebar, after some experience now, i feel like browns were designed for typing - not gaming. blues are great for an audial feedback of the actuation point, but i think browns could be just as good with practice.
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I'm a brown hater, clears are okay, but browns just are not for me, if the bump was a bit sharper i'd like it, but its just not enough resistance and it rolls on too much. I'd rather have a sharp tick of a bump than a smoother hump to get over.
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Anyone bought one of these yet, in any of the switch types? I'm strongly considering it, especially now that the RGB version has launched and the non-rgb one is so cheap. I love the aesthetic overall, and the reviews I've read are all quite glowing.
The horrible bright red keycaps are optional extras, the box they are stored in can be removed from that rail easily, for those just seeing it for the first time and wondering.
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Anyone bought one of these yet, in any of the switch types? I'm strongly considering it, especially now that the RGB version has launched and the non-rgb one is so cheap. I love the aesthetic overall, and the reviews I've read are all quite glowing.
The horrible bright red keycaps are optional extras, the box they are stored in can be removed from that rail easily, for those just seeing it for the first time and wondering.

It looks like a gamer gimmick to me, but as a gaming keyboard, yes it should be alright. It would also give you a good chance to try out browns for yourself.
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if you love the way it looks, then go for it, but as far as a price/quality, i doubt its going to be up there with some of the other bang for the buck kings.

Also, this evening i'm going to get you guys some photos of my lightsaver/rs3/zz97/whateveritscalled up. I feel bad that i've been so busy lately i've only put maybe 3 hours on it, but man its an amazing board now. Love the thing.
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like... how strongly? i was also fairly opposed to them, but then i picked up a Das Pro for cheap. After i cleaned it, i lubed just the stabs and put DSA Dolch on it with a PBT spacebar, after some experience now, i feel like browns were designed for typing - not gaming. blues are great for an audial feedback of the actuation point, but i think browns could be just as good with practice.

I just feel the tactility of Browns is too light to be useful, so I don't like it for typing, and I don't like any tactility for gaming so it loses in both areas for me. I favor MX Clear for typing although I wish it was clicky.
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It looks like a gamer gimmick to me, but as a gaming keyboard, yes it should be alright. It would also give you a good chance to try out browns for yourself.

I was actually thinking more of buying it with Blues, the brown one is just the first one on google when i pulled it up. Ideally I would buy a keyboard with MX Clears, but its hard to find a decent one of those for a sane price, and I don't think there are ANY of those with proper media controls, which I find myself wanting now that I am using good headphones and my interface for output, and no longer have a volume control on my earcup like I did with my logitech headset. I think I'm too heavy of a typist to use browns, not to mention I'm used to this old AT101W which has a massively higher weight to the switches than browns.

Edit: Ok.. I'm SERIOUSLY considering this right now.. I'm used to a heavy switch so a black would be a good fit for me probably.. anyone see any major cons in this at this price? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823567003

Edit 2: Ok, the heck with it. I ordered it.
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like... how strongly? i was also fairly opposed to them, but then i picked up a Das Pro for cheap. After i cleaned it, i lubed just the stabs and put DSA Dolch on it with a PBT spacebar, after some experience now, i feel like browns were designed for typing - not gaming. blues are great for an audial feedback of the actuation point, but i think browns could be just as good with practice.

I just feel the tactility of Browns is too light to be useful, so I don't like it for typing, and I don't like any tactility for gaming so it loses in both areas for me. I favor MX Clear for typing although I wish it was clicky.

this is what i am missing. never typed on clears. it will be months before i get my zealios and install them...
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