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Hovering your wrists is something to try if you want to improve your typing. Personally I type 70wpm and don't miss keys, so that's good enough for me and I'm not going through the effort of learning a new typing style. Especially if you have a tall wrist rest, as opposed to the plastic ones attached to some keyboards.
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I got the other one that was 68 dollars I believe. I saw that the Filco was synthetic leather and that this one was hand made etc. I figured it was about a 20 dollar difference and went with the one that seemed to be better quality. I cant say that I am too disappointed just for the cost of the palm rest I wish it had a non slip feel to the bottom. It is very well made just a bit stiff since it is still new.

I am trying to do what you said but years of resting my wrists on a g15 palm rest has left me with a very bad habit. I am surprised that i can type on the otaku version as well as I am right now. I haven't missed to many keys at the moment. I have to say the feel of typing seems a lot lighter than on my g15. I haven't gamed yet but I am sure it will be ok.
Odd. The Filco one I have is real leather. Looks like the ones that are on the site... maybe they changed over at some point?
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the standard one is stitched leather coated in polyurethane with foam and a base plate.
the 3 star one is 100% genuine stitched leather with urethane (foam) and a base plate.

I don't really see the difference.
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Originally Posted by rxkevin View Post
I got the other one that was 68 dollars I believe. I saw that the Filco was synthetic leather and that this one was hand made etc. I figured it was about a 20 dollar difference and went with the one that seemed to be better quality. I cant say that I am too disappointed just for the cost of the palm rest I wish it had a non slip feel to the bottom. It is very well made just a bit stiff since it is still new.

I am trying to do what you said but years of resting my wrists on a g15 palm rest has left me with a very bad habit. I am surprised that i can type on the otaku version as well as I am right now. I haven't missed to many keys at the moment. I have to say the feel of typing seems a lot lighter than on my g15. I haven't gamed yet but I am sure it will be ok.
I started touch typing about 15-17 years ago, and during that entire time, I had always kept my wrists planted on the wrist rest while typing. It was just the way I wanted to do it back then. I felt that it was the best way for me to do it - except, I never even tried hovering my wrists. I assumed it was stupid and pointless.

I received my Majestouch Tactile Click in the mail 6 months ago on March 9th, and due to all of the talk about how new mechanical keyboard users will be bottoming out at first and then later getting used to not bottoming out, I had decided that I was going to practice not bottoming out; I wanted to master it. So, I just typed random stuff in Notepad every single day, and I also typed as slowly as possible in order to maximize my learning. I did this for two reasons: not only did I want to master not bottoming out, but I also enjoyed using this keyboard so much that I wanted to savor every keystroke.

Not more than a couple days into practicing, I suddenly discovered that I was hovering my wrists! I figured out that I was doing this subconsciously to allow myself to type with a lighter touch so that I completely avoided bottoming out - hovering my wrists was a natural reaction to the way I was trying to type. So due to becoming aware of the fact that I was hovering my wrists, I made a point to include that in my daily practice (I made a point to remain aware of it). I also experimented with different heights in order to find the most optimal height. After a while of doing that, I found the optimal height and simultaneously discovered that I further improved the experience by basically letting my hands hang down from my wrists more or less. This allowed me to be much more relaxed. After a while of practicing that, I eventually felt a perfect middle ground which maximized my accuracy and speed while allowing me to continue avoiding bottoming out completely.

After a day or two of all this, I suddenly remembered that the book I used like 15-17 years ago to learn how to type from said that the proper typing technique involves hovering the wrists like this. But I was a young teenager back then, and therefore I was rebellious; I wanted to do things my way. Plus, I assumed that hovering my wrists while typing was going to cause me to be fatigued, and so I assumed that it was significantly smarter to just keep my wrists planted on the wrist rest while typing. But as I have learned over the course of the past 6 months, I was dead wrong.

So, hovering your wrists while typing isn't a certain style of touch typing: it's the only way to do it. It is absolutely incorrect to keep your wrists planted on the wrist rest (or on the desk) while typing. In fact, I learned the hard way over the past 15-17 years that it is such an incorrect way of doing it that it can result in permanent injury: thanks to keeping my wrists planted on the wrist rest while typing for the past 15-17 years, I now suffer from carpal tunnel in my left hand (probably because it's my weak hand). This was especially obvious to me when I first started hovering my wrists: my left hand suddenly felt a little bit better - even on the first day. Today, my left hand still hurts, but it's nowhere near as bad, plus any pain I experience occurs FAR less frequently. I think I'm finally allowing it to heal as much as it can - but I think the damage is permanent. Although, at least it feels better, and it's all thanks to finally typing properly.

If somebody tells me that everyone is different and therefore that makes it perfectly ok if somebody prefers typing while keeping their wrists planted on a wrist rest, then I'll say that they are wrong. Everyone is indeed different, but it doesn't change the fact that we are all the same when it comes to the basic mechanics of our bodies (especially the mechanics of our fingers, hands and wrists). I mean, we all basically work the same way. So unless you were born with a defect, your body's mechanics are the same as mine, and mine are the same as yours. Therefore, it doesn't make sense for one person to scoff at this proper typing technique and say that there's nothing wrong with keeping your wrists planted while typing. I spent at least 15 years keeping my wrists planted on a wrist rest while typing, so I know the difference quite well. Plus, there isn't a single guide out there that teaches proper touch typing and says that it's better to keep your wrists planted on a wrist rest.
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Just ordered my first mechanical keyboard

"Majestouch" Filco 104-key Black keyboard, tactile clicky BLUE Cherry keyswitches, N-Key rollover, w/USB cable and PS/2 converter

Hopefully will get it next week. Taken a long time to finally buy one, took too long to find a perfect one for me.
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Just ordered my first mechanical keyboard

"Majestouch" Filco 104-key Black keyboard, tactile clicky BLUE Cherry keyswitches, N-Key rollover, w/USB cable and PS/2 converter

Hopefully will get it next week. Taken a long time to finally buy one, took too long to find a perfect one for me.
Aw yeah, the Filco Majestouch Tactile Click NKRO. You're going to love it!
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Just ordered my first mechanical keyboard

"Majestouch" Filco 104-key Black keyboard, tactile clicky BLUE Cherry keyswitches, N-Key rollover, w/USB cable and PS/2 converter

Hopefully will get it next week. Taken a long time to finally buy one, took too long to find a perfect one for me.

That's the keyboard I just got a few weeks ago. Hope you like it, I love mine. I consider it one of the best purchases I've made for my PC, and that is saying something.

Regarding typing, I taught myself to touch type around fifteen years ago, and I hover my wrists. I've never been able to plant my wrists and type, it has always felt too restrictive to me. One of the first things I've always done when getting a new keyboard is to throw out any included wrist rests.
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the standard one is stitched leather coated in polyurethane with foam and a base plate.
the 3 star one is 100% genuine stitched leather with urethane (foam) and a base plate.

I don't really see the difference.
Majestouch once posted on this. I think it is the difference between fabric backed "Top Grain" and "Full Grain" leather. I learn this stuff because I'm into leather.

BFD - it's just a palm rest. I do sniff it periodically.
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1992 USA Model M. Anyone wanna buy it? I can't stand the noise. It's not the clicking so much as it is the ringing of the springs after the keystroke.
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