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post #911 of 36807
Ask yourself sometime why PS/2 gaming keyboards are not shipped with gaming macro software.

Personally, I always find it handy.

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Steelseries SHIFT (USB only)
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Multiple levels of macros

Personalization allows you to shift the rules to your favor. You can program every single key on the Shift through our advanced software. In fact, you can do this multiple times. That’s because we have added layers to the Shift which can be easily activated through hotkeys on the base of the Shift. This means there is almost no limit to how much you can ask the Shift to do or how many times you can ask the Shift to do it. We have added illuminated indicators to the Shift to quickly and easily indicate which layer is active.

Edited by ripster - 10/1/10 at 8:52am
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OHHHHHHHH!
that does make sense! i guess i didnt think about it because i dont use macro keys. i only play FPS, or some very casual starcraft 2, and a bit of titan quest. Mostly any game by Valve. i never liked macros. even when i had my logitech g15. but i guess there are alot of people that do like macro funtionality. i gues that is another important thing to think about when trying to find the right keyboard.
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post #913 of 36807
PS/2 keyboards are fully capable of supporting macros. I've got a dozen Cherry keyboards that use PS/2 and are macro capable. All you have to do is set your macro keys to send a unique scancode, then have your driver pick it up and do its magic. It's only because programmers try to be fancy that many rely on USB.
post #914 of 36807
I like GUIs for my macros. I'm lazy when it comes to gaming. Hell, I game mainly on my PS3 for example because that's where all the interesting titles are.

Of course I do use Autohotkey too.

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#NoEnv  ; Recommended for performance and compatibility with future AutoHotkey releases.
SendMode Input  ; Recommended for new scripts due to its superior speed and reliability.
SetWorkingDir %A_ScriptDir%  ; Ensures a consistent starting directory.

#SingleInstance Force
#HotkeyInterval 999999
#MaxHotkeysPerInterval 9999
#UseHook On


;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;

;Tilde key becomes period, SHF tilde becomes tilde
`::.
+`::Send, `~

;\\ becomes Backspace, SHF becomes \\, Pipe disappears because I can't program worth ****
\\::Backspace
+\\::Send, `\\

;Backspace becomes Del
Backspace::Delete
+Backspace::|

; Caps Lock becomes Ctrl, Win+LShift becomes Caps Lock
CapsLock::Ctrl
#Lshift::Capslock    


;New Key next to LShift becomes Backspace
SC056::Backspace

;New Key next to Backspace becomes backslash
SC07D::Send {\\}
Shift & SC07D::Send {|}

;New Key next to RShift becomes Windows
SC073::LWin

;Win+F5 to send Youtube tags
#F5::
Send [youtube] [/youtube]
return


;Japanese Keyboard
SC07B::Send "Key Left of Spacebar"
SC079::Send "Key Right of Spacebar"
SC070::Send "Key Left of RALT"
SC073::Send "Key Left of RSHIFT"
;SC07D::Send "Key Left of BACKSPACE"




#F3::
SoundSet +1
SoundGet, master_volume
voltip := Round(master_volume)
Tooltip, Vol: %voltip%`%
SetTimer, RemoveToolTip, 2000
return

#F2::
SoundSet -1
SoundGet, master_volume
voltip := Round(master_volume)
Tooltip, Vol: %voltip%`%
SetTimer, RemoveToolTip, 2000
return

#F1::
Send {Volume_Mute}
SoundGet, master_mute, , mute
if(master_mute = "on")
{
Tooltip, Mute On
}else
{
Tooltip, Mute Off
}
SetTimer, RemoveToolTip, 2000
return

RemoveToolTip:
SetTimer, RemoveToolTip, Off
ToolTip
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post #915 of 36807
Would someone please be kind to perform a simple USB trace test and post results back here for analysis? -- The test is based around simultaneous multiple input (pressing more than one key in the same time), but it will also tell you (me) the maximum performance of this keyboard.


Here is USB sniffer program, free to try, small and easy to download, but I welcome reports from any other software you prefer or think can do better diagnosis: http://www.topshareware.com/USBTrace-transfer-42419.htm



THE TEST: USB Trace
=================

1. Start session

2. Press THREE buttons in the same time [Q+W+E]
...hold ~2 seconds

3. Release all three buttons in the same time
...wait ~5 seconds

4. Press FOUR buttons in the same time [Q+W+E+R]
...hold ~2 seconds

5. Release all four buttons in the same time

6. Report results back here, perhaps a screen capture


* Maybe also apply filters, so to only show "IN" packets with "DATA".



Example:


Here is example of pressing [Q+W+E+R] in the same time, holding them down for a while, and after red line is when I release them all in the same time, no filter applied. If you examine this data sample you may find that my USB keyboard (from old iMac) has actually very poor performance, only about 125 keys per second max. How does this compare with other keyboards?
post #916 of 36807
I think you are trying to measure scanning rate. That is better done with an oscilloscope. The scanning rate is limited by the key bounce characteristics of the switch by the microcontroller. Then it's all collected and sent on it's merry way in a USB packet.

From Wikipedia
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Keyboards

Keyboards are some of the most popular USB HID class devices. The USB HID class keyboard has replaced the PS/2 keyboard on most modern computer systems.[citation needed] The USB HID class keyboard is normally designed with an IN endpoint that communicates keystrokes to the computer and an OUT endpoint that communicates the status of the keyboard's LEDs from the computer to the keyboard. The PC 97 standard requires that a computer's BIOS must detect and work with USB HID class keyboards that are designed to be used during the boot process.
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wow that does suck. you think they could atleast include the 5 cent adaptor. oh well i am sure it is still a nice keyboard. but you can alwasy get a filco, and they let you choose from blue, brown and black.

BTW, where do you actually get a filco? do you have to purchase it from their website?
Here in the U.S., they're purchased from here:

http://elitekeyboards.com/
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i live in canada, it really limits my selection. i could not even buy an Ione Mechanical keyboard off their site. i tried. so i was very limited in what i was actually able to get. so i got the 7g. it all worked out tho because i fell in love with these black keys. i was actually conncidering buying the Filco Majestouch Linear Force NKRO (Cherry Black) but then i realized that the Steelseries has that same simple look that i love and that awsome palm rest. but seeing as how i love buying mice and keyboards, i am sure that this 7g will not be my last mechanical keyboard. i may even try and get a cherry with with cherry reds and laser eched keys. or maybe a filco brown NKRO. so many decisions.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigT View Post
i live in canada, it really limits my selection. i could not even buy an Ione Mechanical keyboard off their site. i tried. so i was very limited in what i was actually able to get. so i got the 7g. it all worked out tho because i fell in love with these black keys. i was actually conncidering buying the Filco Majestouch Linear Force NKRO (Cherry Black) but then i realized that the Steelseries has that same simple look that i love and that awsome palm rest. but seeing as how i love buying mice and keyboards, i am sure that this 7g will not be my last mechanical keyboard. i may even try and get a cherry with with cherry reds and laser eched keys. or maybe a filco brown NKRO. so many decisions.
didn't I link you to a Canadian retailer (HLTechnology) that carried the iOne XArmor U9BL?

Filco are pretty expensive because of the currency exchange and customs fee.

BestDirect and DirectCanada carry the Das Model S and sell it even cheaper than Metadot. you can buy a Das Model S Professional Silent for under $125 CAD shipped.
Edited by lmnop - 10/2/10 at 1:46pm
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post #920 of 36807
Managed to sell my IBM Model F (AT version) today

Discovered a Compaq MX 11800 in a bunch of junk I had bought.

Seems to be using Cherry brown switches or could I be mistaken?
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