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Error 124 has to do with VVT(QPI/Dram voltage), can either mean its too high or too low. If you have it set to 1.34 it should be ok.

what mhz are you running it at when overclocking, you drop it to a lower setting right? I would losen the timings a little bit, lets say 9 9 9 24. Just for the purpose of overclocking your cpu. Can try to bring those back down later.

Ah, just read up on the ram. Looks like it requires alot of voltage (requires the max of 1.65 to even operate). So for overclock you will have to reduce timing and/or mhz. Also you will probably have to bump VVT up a few notches above intel recommendations to support it. I hear its safe up to over 1.4v, havent tried it though.
My RAM settings are:
BCLK Freq: 190
DRAM: 6x = 1,140
Uncore: 2X = 2,280
QPI: 18x = 3,420.0
VTT Voltage: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.654 V

The RAM I have is linked below:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...OCZ3P1600LV6GK

I tried to increasing my VTT to 1.41 and 1.5 still get the same error 124 BSOD! Would increasing my Vdimm from 1.654 help? This RAM sucks!
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My RAM settings are:
BCLK Freq: 190
DRAM: 6x = 1,140
Uncore: 2X = 2,280
QPI: 18x = 3,420.0
VTT Voltage: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.654 V

The RAM I have is linked below:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...OCZ3P1600LV6GK

I tried to increasing my VTT to 1.41 and 1.5 still get the same error 124 BSOD! Would increasing my Vdimm from 1.654 help? This RAM sucks!

What are your memory timings? There are quite a few individual timings, but the most important ones are usually grouped in the BIOS as the first four values, i.e. 7-7-7-20 or 8-8-8-24. There is another critical value, usually called "command rate" or "timing mode", which will be either 1T/1N or 2T/2N.

And don't increase VTT or Vdimm any more. I would put them back to 1.35 and 1.66.

Still, I would give a lower CPU multiplier a quick try. It can't hurt. I saw a thread where someone else managed to get around unresolvable 124 BSODs by changing to 19x and a higher base clock. I never encountered a 124 myself, but I ended up switching to 19x and found it to be more stable at slightly lower voltage than 21x. Try 19x200, and then 19x210.
Edited by prototype7 - 6/3/10 at 3:52pm
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My RAM settings are:
BCLK Freq: 190
DRAM: 6x = 1,140
Uncore: 2X = 2,280
QPI: 18x = 3,420.0
VTT Voltage: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.654 V

The RAM I have is linked below:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...OCZ3P1600LV6GK

I tried to increasing my VTT to 1.41 and 1.5 still get the same error 124 BSOD! Would increasing my Vdimm from 1.654 help? This RAM sucks!
hmm..maybe it doesnt like your VVT being that high? Try reducing your vvt to 1.3v If you still get it...damn, =(. I wouldnt blame the ram itself. Could be the ram combo with mobo and the cpu, or a mobo vvt problem, or the cpu doesnt like your mobo/ram.

Also, try increase the uncore a few notches. It will help with stability. Not sure how high you can increase it and be ok. So just 2 or 3 ups and try it. It definatly increased my stability with the iffy overclocks.
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i7 930 #3002A582 D0 for 199.99 from Microcenter

The Thread is 65 pages, look like I have a bit of reading!
Before I found the guide I have reached 4200Mhz @ 1.32v not prime tested.
Time to start over from scratch!

RealTemp is reading cores 1 & 3 temps at idle different by 6- 7C than cores 2 & 4. Is this normal? I have the Apogee XT block with MX-3 paste.
1@ 41C
2@ 35C
3@ 42C
4@ 36C

Very nice Thread you birthed, great job.
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Anyone with an Asrock Extreme X58 running something over 4.0ghz stable, and has the settings they used?
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What are your memory timings? There are quite a few individual timings, but the most important ones are usually grouped in the BIOS as the first four values, i.e. 7-7-7-20 or 8-8-8-24. There is another critical value, usually called "command rate" or "timing mode", which will be either 1T/1N or 2T/2N.

And don't increase VTT or Vdimm any more. I would put them back to 1.35 and 1.66.

Still, I would give a lower CPU multiplier a quick try. It can't hurt. I saw a thread where someone else managed to get around unresolvable 124 BSODs by changing to 19x and a higher base clock. I never encountered a 124 myself, but I ended up switching to 19x and found it to be more stable at slightly lower voltage than 21x. Try 19x200, and then 19x210.
Thanks for the advice Prototype. To answer your question my timings are 9-9-9-24-88,2T. The ram is designed for 7-7-7-24-88, 2T but I loosened them for my overclock.

I tried the 19x multiplier too. The 19x200 was stable. But at 19x210 I got the same 124 bsod.

Per Piekillas recommendation is also tried to increase my uncore freq more than 2x once I tried the 2x in my first run. Still the same stupid 124 bsod.

FYI I had the same problem at a blck of 180. At first i got a 7f bsod at a vcore of 1.175. But once I raised it to 1.200 the bsod changed to 124. Once it was raised the 1.23125 the 124 bsod went away. Wierd! I wonder if I should raise my vcore more than 1.3. It's d0 chip though it shouldn't need to be this high! There must be some bios setting that is messing me up! Below are my settings Thoughts?

Here are the OC settings that fail (124 BSOD)
CPU Ratio: 19
BCLK Freq: 210
PCIE Freq: 100 (Tried 102)
CPU Freq: 3,990 Hz
CPU Voltage: 1.3000 V
DRAM: 6x
Uncore: 2X
QPI: 18x
VTT Voltage: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.654 V
IOH Voltage: Auto
ICH Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL: 1.82 V

I have the following power savings options:
C1E=Disabled
Intel VT=Disabled
CPU Thermal Throttling: Enabled
No-Execute Memory Protection: Disabled
Hyper Threading: Enabled
A20M: Disabled
EIST: Disabled
C-STATE: Disabled
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
ASRock VDroop Control: Without VDroop
Edited by fish1717 - 6/4/10 at 6:34pm
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Thanks for the advice Prototype. To answer your question my timings are 9-9-9-24-88,2T. The ram is designed for 7-7-7-24-88, 2T but I loosened them for my overclock.

I tried the 19x multiplier too. The 19x200 was stable. But at 19x210 I got the same 124 bsod.

Per Piekillas recommendation is also tried to increase my uncore freq more than 2x once I tried the 2x in my first run. Still the same stupid 124 bsod.

FYI I had the same problem at a blck of 180. At first i got a 7f bsod at a vcore of 1.175. But once I raised it to 1.200 the bsod changed to 124. Once it was raised the 1.23125 the 124 bsod went away. Wierd! I wonder if I should raise my vcore more than 1.3. It's d0 chip though it shouldn't need to be this high! There must be some bios setting that is messing me up! Below are my settings Thoughts?

Here are the OC settings that fail (124 BSOD)
CPU Ratio: 19
BCLK Freq: 210
PCIE Freq: 100 (Tried 102)
CPU Freq: 3,990 Hz
CPU Voltage: 1.3000 V
DRAM: 6x
Uncore: 2X
QPI: 18x
VTT Voltage: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.654 V
IOH Voltage: Auto
ICH Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL: 1.82 V

I have the following power savings options:
C1E=Disabled
Intel VT=Disabled
CPU Thermal Throttling: Enabled
No-Execute Memory Protection: Disabled
Hyper Threading: Enabled
A20M: Disabled
EIST: Disabled
C-STATE: Disabled
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
ASRock VDroop Control: Without VDroop

Well, if it was stable at a base clock of 200 with the same RAM multiplier, then the memory was running stable at a higher speed with the 19x test than it was in the 21x test at the same core clock rate of 3.8GHz. With 2:6 ratio, it was running at 1200MHz effective at 19x200, versus 1080Mhz at 21x180. The increase from 21x180 to 21x190 only increases memory rate to 1140MHz. So at 19x200, you were already running the memory at a higher overall speed than you were at 21x190.
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Well, if it was stable at a base clock of 200 with the same RAM multiplier, then the memory was running stable at a higher speed with the 19x test than it was in the 21x test at the same core clock rate of 3.8GHz. With 2:6 ratio, it was running at 1200MHz effective at 19x200, versus 1080Mhz at 21x180. The increase from 21x180 to 21x190 only increases memory rate to 1140MHz. So at 19x200, you were already running the memory at a higher overall speed than you were at 21x190.
Good point it must not be my Ram then. Something else in my system must be causing the 124 bsod. Which is a hardware error. Could something in my rig be defective? My gpu? The processor? The MB? I remember when I installed the CPU there were a few bent pins on the MB. From what I've been told if it boots up the CPU is still making proper contact with the MB.

So I think I'm just going to stay at 3.8 (19x200) with my overclock. With 19x200 I can run my RAM at it's rated settings (1600), rather than underclock the RAM with the 21x multiplier.

So now I can't even get 19x200 stable! I'm so frustated with this whole process! I'm convinced something in my system is defective but I don't know how to narrow it down.

I been able to run prime for about 2 hours but everytime after 2 hrs it get the same god damn 124 bsod!

Below are my OC settings:
CPU Ratio: 19
BCLK Freq: 200
PCIE Freq: 100
CPU Freq: 3,800 Hz
CPU Voltage: 1.26250 V
DRAM: 8x = 1,600 Hz
Uncore: 2X = 3,200 Hz
QPI: 18x = 3,600 Hz
VTT Voltage: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.654 V
IOH Voltage: 1.203 V
ICH Voltage: 1.20 V
CPU PLL: 1.88 V

I have the following power savings options:
C1E=Disabled
Intel VT=Disabled
CPU Thermal Throttling: Enabled
No-Execute Memory Protection: Disabled
Hyper Threading: Enabled
A20M: Disabled
EIST: Disabled
C-STATE: Disabled
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
ASRock VDroop Control: Without VDroop

I've tried raising my VCore from 1.23750 to 1.26250, increasing my IOH, ICH to 1.2, Increasing my CPU PLL to 1.88, and loosening my timings from 7-7-7-24 to 9-9-9-24. Please help nothing seems to get rid of this damn bsod, I'm thinking my MB is defective, but maybe it's my processor.
Edited by fish1717 - 6/6/10 at 4:44pm
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I've been reading up on your mobo, apparently it has endless problems. So that is a good place to start if you plan on replacing something. The mobo is not the place to skimp on cash when building a system, especially when youre overclocking. Spend the extra dough and get a decent system. I have a rampage 2 gene, and its great for overclocking. But it is micro atx, although the reviews for the gene are fantastic. I would however get a mobo with the upgrading tech of usb 3.0 and sata 6, just so you dont have to worry about getting a new mobo anytime soon.

DONT SKIMP ON MOTHERBOARDS!!!!!!! If you have an amazing CPU, it doesnt matter! Your mobo sucks!
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Good point it must not be my Ram then. Something else in my system must be causing the 124 bsod. Which is a hardware error. Could something in my rig be defective? My gpu? The processor? The MB? I remember when I installed the CPU there were a few bent pins on the MB. From what I've been told if it boots up the CPU is still making proper contact with the MB.

So I think I'm just going to stay at 3.8 (19x200) with my overclock. With 19x200 I can run my RAM at it's rated settings (1600), rather than underclock the RAM with the 21x multiplier.

So now I can't even get 19x200 stable! I'm so frustated with this whole process! I'm convinced something in my system is defective but I don't know how to narrow it down.

I been able to run prime for about 2 hours but everytime after 2 hrs it get the same god damn 124 bsod!

Below are my OC settings:
CPU Ratio: 19
BCLK Freq: 200
PCIE Freq: 100
CPU Freq: 3,800 Hz
CPU Voltage: 1.26250 V
DRAM: 8x = 1,600 Hz
Uncore: 2X = 3,200 Hz
QPI: 18x = 3,600 Hz
VTT Voltage: 1.340 V
DRAM Voltage: 1.654 V
IOH Voltage: 1.203 V
ICH Voltage: 1.20 V
CPU PLL: 1.88 V

I have the following power savings options:
C1E=Disabled
Intel VT=Disabled
CPU Thermal Throttling: Enabled
No-Execute Memory Protection: Disabled
Hyper Threading: Enabled
A20M: Disabled
EIST: Disabled
C-STATE: Disabled
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
ASRock VDroop Control: Without VDroop

I've tried raising my VCore from 1.23750 to 1.26250, increasing my IOH, ICH to 1.2, Increasing my CPU PLL to 1.88, and loosening my timings from 7-7-7-24 to 9-9-9-24. Please help nothing seems to get rid of this damn bsod, I'm thinking my MB is defective, but maybe it's my processor.

Ouch! I would not be comfortable using a system that throws hardware errors like that. I certainly would not consider it to be stable at any speed that results in those failures.

Yeah, I think that board is to blame too. If it were me, I would be looking at a replacement. The popular Asus boards like P6X58D and RIIG are proven - just look around the forums and in this thread. If you don't want to invest in a new board, you could try contacting the manufacturer, but I don't know what support you'll actually get.

Have you tried running Prime for any period of time at stock settings? At this point, I wonder if it's even stable at stock speeds.
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