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OCCT? link...

im a noob remember
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OCCT? link...

im a noob remember
lol thats cool. however not such a noob you don't know how to use google right lol just takin the mickey.. here you are mate

http://www.brothersoft.com/occt-276299.html

oh yeah p.s i like what i saw previous post, you followed advice to a T.. i'll have a closer look now though to be sure to be sure.. hope she works well.. p.s all things being equal you can then start to lower settings.. anyway we look at this later don't want jinx you
most likely more tweaking to go but yeah.. hey interested if gaming works too.. oh and your temps.. for instance when using OCCT..

Use OCCT CPU:OCCT or CPU LINPACK test.. either or.. Test Type custom.. Time 10 or 15 minutes.. I think linpack 15 minutes..

hey p.s this isn't by any means a full stability test, where just narrowing down the or pinpointing where we want to be yeah!! cool bro
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here you go check this out. it stopped at 3 min cause cpu too hot ...
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The directions say to put the QPI to the lowest. I am unsure what that means

In my BIOS I have these two:
QPI Link Speed (with options: High speed mode/Low speed mode)
QPI Frequency (with options: Auto/4.800GT)

Am I supposed to put the QPI link speed to low speed mode?


Also I am unable to find the QPI/Uncore (VTT) in my BIOS. Is this the same as QPI voltage?
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The directions say to put the QPI to the lowest. I am unsure what that means

In my BIOS I have these two:
QPI Link Speed (with options: High speed mode/Low speed mode)
QPI Frequency (with options: Auto/4.800GT)

Am I supposed to put the QPI link speed to low speed mode?


Also I am unable to find the QPI/Uncore (VTT) in my BIOS. Is this the same as QPI voltage?
You don't have to touch those two QPI settings. Leave QPI Link Speed set to the default, which should be High-speed. QPI Frequency should be set to the default, 4.800GT, or Auto if you like.

In the guide, the QPI that they're referring to is the QPI voltage.

Use this as a supplement to the Key Terms and Settings Quick Guide for the MSI x58 Pro-E, which is how I mapped things out:

BCLK: Base Clock

Uncore: Uncore Ratio

QPI: QPI Configuration > QPI Frequency. The guide references ratios; however our board uses Frequency, which can be described as follows:

- 4.800GT = 18x
- 5.400GT = 20x
- 5.800GT = 22x
- 6.400GT = 24x

Memory: Memory Ratio

Ram Timings: Advanced DRAM Configuration

Turbo mode: Intel Turbo Boost tech

CPU Multiplier: Adjust CPU Ratio

Vcore: CPU Vcore

Pll: CPU PLL Voltage

QPI/Uncore (VTT): QPI Voltage

Vdimm: DRAM Voltage

EIST: Intel EIST

Anything Spread Spectrum: Spread Spectrum

PCIE frequency: Adjust PCI-E Frequency

LLC: (I don't believe we have this in our BIOS, as I couldn't find anything about Load Line Calibration).

Good luck.
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Tha Joker..

Well first with the positive.. no lock ups, shut downs etc which is good to here.. usually you'll get one straight away if settings way off so we're in the ballpark at least, probably pretty close to whats necessary for 24/7 stability.

Whats your ambient temperature.. ? I have a good case and great airflow with the Antec 1200 and ambient around 22 as it's winter here, even when room warmed to 28 it's easily ok at 4.2 (or even 4.4)

Either way until volts high around 1.44v, temp stay under 80.. well actually just over but thats find with OCCT/IBT as temps genrated aren't realistic in real world performance unless serious encoding etc..

Perhaps airflow issue or the H50 isn't seated properly otherwise we look at lowering volts yeah.. .. i just don't see how temps so high with such low volts as is .. perhaps as i'm using i7 960 though and as mentioned the case..

Have you tried gaming also.. as good indicator..

Heat is the enemy.. any chance of increasing airflow?.. could try with case open etc.. otherwise we'll try and tweak down some volts and try again hey

p.s. if you raise ICH a cople notches you could 'possibly' lower your QPI/VTT a notice or two yeah. esp when fine tuning once stable
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Gobbo353,

Cheers mate,

GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD7[/SIZE]

MB Intelligent Tweaker (M.I.T.)

Advanced CPU Features [Enter]

CPU Clock Ratio............................:21
CPU Frequency ........................(GHz):4.2
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech..................isabled
CPU Cores Enabled..........................:All
CPU Multi Threading........................:Enabled
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E)....................isabled
C3/C6/C7 State Support.....................isabled
CPU Thermal Monitor........................isabled
CPU EIST Function..........................isabled
Bi-Directional PROCHOT.....................isabled
Virtualization Technology..................isabled

Uncore & QPI Features [Enter]

QPI Clock Ratio*...........................:x36
QPI Link Speed* ......................(GHz):7.2 GHz
Uncore Clock Ratio.........................:x17
Uncore Frequency......................(MHz):3400 Mhz
Isochronous Support........................:Enabled

Advanced Clock Control [Enter]

~~~Standard Clock Control
Base Clock (BCLK) Control*.................:Enabled
BCLK Frequency (MHz)*......................:200
PCI Express Frequency (MHz)................:100

~~~Standard Clock Control
CPU Clock Drive (mV).......................:900
PCI Express Clock Drive (mV)...............:900
CPU Clock Skew (ps)........................:0ps
IOH Clock Skew (ps)........................:0ps

Advanced Dram Features [Enter]

Performance Enhance........................:Turbo
Extreme Memory Profile (X.M.P.)............isabled
System Memory Multiplier (SPD).............:8.0
Memory Frequency (MHz).....................:1600 Mhz
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ..............:Auto
Channel Interleaving.......................:Auto
Rank Interleaving..........................:Auto

~~~CPU Voltages
LoadLine Calibration.......................:Level 1
CPU Vcore..................................:1.3125
QPI/VTT Voltage............................:1.335
CPU PLL....................................:1.88

~~~MCH/ICH Voltrage
PCIE.......................................:1.58
QPI PLL....................................:1.18
IOH Core...................................:1.20
ICH I/O....................................:1.50
ICH Core...................................:1.20

~~~Dram
DRAM Voltage...............................:1.64

i might even reseat my H50 this weekend,

and heres my new run with the lowered vcore, the max i hit was 76c. can you explain what the 3.3v, 5v and 12v graphs means? also if the vcore drops in the graph does that mean i can go that low?

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Hey hey Tha Jokes

Well thats great now your getting somewhere..

Don't be concerned with the 3,5,12 voltages as I had a look at both runs and there spot on.. and we both have the same power supply which is top notch. Those readings are just to ensure enough voltage is being supplied to your motherboard, graphics card etc and at a constant rate..

What you'll find is if you drop the vcore any further in Bois then they'll drop even further when your stressign the pc and perhaps to the point where your get blue screens or reboots etc..

Next thing i'd do is try gaming as you did initially to see if it's stable.. then last two steps is to do a full OCCT, Prime or Intel Burn test run for a few hours/ overnight etc to make sure shes rock solid..

So jump in and game away for a few hours and then run OCCT for say 3 hours straight.. i usually keep a casual eye on it for an hour or so and then come back after three hours to check results.. This just ensures if it fails within 30 minutes or so you don't waste your day yeah..

Then we'll lower V'core one notch if stable and redo the OCCT run for another three hours etc etc until not stable.. then up one notch.. then move on the QPI VTT for example.. You could even stop at that point as if you lower v'core a bit and stable and your happy with temps then your pretty right to move on mate.

Go forth and conqur.. i'll check back for your results!!

p.s. edit.. Cinbench and 3dMark Vantage (CPU Tests) are another way to test your stability pretty reliably.. i'd run these if you have the progs.. you may be able to find them on the net for nuts also

Yeah so you can up your ICH Core a couple notches and see if you can low QPI/VTT a notch yeah (Will teak temps by lowering QPI) - (Make this an independant test proceedure) otherwise as i've done in the past you get lost with too many tweaks all at once and dont' know which one worked
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Dude just my opinion but HT is a bonus.. if you can tweak and keep it then i'd suggest doing so.. but not my rig.. we're here to help each other so if your after stability with lowest temps we'll do what we can to help so you can keep the feature in tact yeah!.. I have all my performance settings on at 4.4 with HD50.. can't imagine it out performing a TRUE by that much as my teps remain uner 80C load.. Note i have a TRUE also but use it for my E8400 @4.5 8800GT rig..

yea HT is nice and I'd like to have it but it just doesn't do squat for games, other than that I cant figure out a way to get lower temps with HT on since I have to raise my vCore to 1.352 and my temps get around 85C during prime95... my ambients are around 27 ... so not much I can really do here

my other settings are normal, 21x 200bclk
vtt: 1.35
PLL:1.88
ioh & ich: 1.2
vdimm: 1.65
vcore (HT off): 1.312
dram: 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24
uncore: 3200mhz
qpi: @lowest setting (18x, don't remember the exact number)
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yea HT is nice and I'd like to have it but it just doesn't do squat for games, other than that I cant figure out a way to get lower temps with HT on since I have to raise my vCore to 1.352 and my temps get around 85C during prime95... my ambients are around 27 ... so not much I can really do here

my other settings are normal, 21x 200bclk
vtt: 1.35
PLL:1.88
ioh & ich: 1.2
vdimm: 1.65
vcore (HT off): 1.312
dram: 1600Mhz 9-9-9-24
uncore: 3200mhz
qpi: @lowest setting (18x, don't remember the exact number)
Dezerteagle323

I hear you.. but i'm sure we can tweak further and mitigate.. last resort HT off.. don't go down without a fight yeah

--you mentioned you raised Vcore to 1.352 -- i reckon we can shave a notch or two off Vcore at least -- with ICH a bit higher perhaps QPI/VTT a notch lower you might just be spot on --- After all your only nudging over 80 so i'm confident mate..

I'd raise ICH to 1.24 (it helps the ram out and may or will most likely help lower QPI/VTT a notch - as QPI/VTT generates heat quickly)..

Ok so whats your QPI PLL, set this to 1.24 this may facilitate lowering your VCore or QPI/VTT also for sure (well nothings for sure with OCing ) and save on temps.. Also CPU Clock Drive to 900 (again may help lower Vcore) // PCI Express Clock Drive 900 // LLC 1

Yeah so QPI VTT you 'may' be able to lower a notch or two from 1.35 (see ICH above) not sure thoguh.. most try here because thats what they hear works (unless you've tried already .. try this one independantly i.e without lowering anything else and when raising ICH as suggested.. even go 1.26 ICH yeah.. (Do this as a seperat exervise once adjusted other settings as above)

Also as a side note - don't forget and i mentioned previously - you should tighten your ram timings when we get there yeah.. i'm at 1600 with 6-7-6-18 not that i'm suggestion you go there as ram is different but yeah you should look it up on relevent forum and have a go. Really speeds up your whole system

Hey and set up the TRUE with Push/Pull for you'll save a few degrees FOR SURE.. (even if you take out a front fan or something long as it's roughly same CRM / static pressure as the Tri).. Tri's aren't bad at all actually

p.s. See ThaJokers settings as we've worked on that a bit and almost there.. temps are reasonable to good so yeah again you shouldn't be far off with True in Push/Pull.. just a few minor adjustments

p.p,s i posted following but moved to bottom as can be used if having no luck down the track - So disregard for now - unless you wanna spend a little more time on it.. Geez i've lost many hours now tweaking 4,4.2,4.4.. can't go higher though.. although now i'm trying to lower ram timings but yeah multi and with all the rest it's almost pointless i fear - without proper water cooling anywayz.. still i try

TBH i'd raise Vcore again to find HT stability setting and report back (only a temporary measure so you know your system --or was that the 1.352 your mentioned?).. really thats what we need to know anyway, knowing it first will help greatly. i suspect it's more like 1.33.. i know what your thinking, you nuts raise temps more but hang about.

i.e find out what Vcore minimum works with HT on.. Don't use prime but something like CInebench and 3dMark Vantage (CPU Tests) which doesn't generate tonnes of heat - to check stability (if possible) - we need your ballpark before honing in.. Otherwise we'll just assume it's 1.352 for the moment
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