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Originally Posted by fleetfeather View Post

I doubt Zotac is going to the effort of making a 6-pin prototype of a 8-pin retail card

A lot of PCBs get reused. In a lot of cases, you can tell what the bonus features will be just by looking at a low-end product:

-This ASRock AM1 board, for example, has locations for two SATA ports, an IDE port, a USB 3.0 header, and what I think is a DVI port. They just aren't used.
-The Hummingboard uses the exact same PCB for all models. The only difference is that the flagship actually has the plastic mPCIe and mSATA slots (and I think a couple other things).
-My current laptop has copper pads for an extra M.2 slot, and the old broken one could potentially fit a second mPCIe or mSATA slot.

Those are just some example off the top of my head. In the GPU world, a buttload of 750s and 750Tis have six pads near the corner where a 6-pin socket can fit. They just don't have them installed because of PCIe slot power. I can't find any examples with two sockets like this, but at least one EVGA 970 is using dual 6-pin but has the pads for 8+6-pin.
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post #10882 of 13159
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Originally Posted by CynicalUnicorn View Post

A lot of PCBs get reused. In a lot of cases, you can tell what the bonus features will be just by looking at a low-end product:

-This ASRock AM1 board, for example, has locations for two SATA ports, an IDE port, a USB 3.0 header, and what I think is a DVI port. They just aren't used.
-The Hummingboard uses the exact same PCB for all models. The only difference is that the flagship actually has the plastic mPCIe and mSATA slots (and I think a couple other things).
-My current laptop has copper pads for an extra M.2 slot, and the old broken one could potentially fit a second mPCIe or mSATA slot.

Those are just some example off the top of my head. In the GPU world, a buttload of 750s and 750Tis have six pads near the corner where a 6-pin socket can fit. They just don't have them installed because of PCIe slot power. I can't find any examples with two sockets like this, but at least one EVGA 970 is using dual 6-pin but has the pads for 8+6-pin.

A 750ti does not have SLI fingers, so the PCB itself must be changed.
Zotac's 660 also doesn't have the same grill design on the expansion bracket. You reckon zotac still has any 660 PCB's around the shop? The warranty period should be well and truly over by now :/
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I was referring to power, not fingers. In my defense, I am still half asleep. redface.gif Didn't they reuse the 670 PCB for the 970?
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I just moved my rig from my Air 240 (sold it) and moved it to my FT-03, It was easier to fit two 120 mm rads here versus the Air 240 plus the fact that temps and noise were way better with my FT-03 (Surprisingly).

I'm using an NZXT G10 bracket on a Galaxy 780Ti HOF with an H55 in push, while cooling my 4790k (together with a Z97i-Plus mitx mobo) with another H55 in push / pull. All fans used are Swiftech PWM Helix fans, I have them set to run at 1000 rpm and they're quiet as heck.

I'm really happy with this setup and it looks good on my desk! biggrin.gif




Edited by mark_thaddeus - 1/10/15 at 7:41am
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post #10885 of 13159
Reference 670's have two SLI fingers tongue.gif
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My build almost finished. biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by fleetfeather View Post

Reference 670's have two SLI fingers tongue.gif



Close enough. tongue.gif
     
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post #10888 of 13159
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Close enough. tongue.gif

That image you have is Zotac's GTX 660, with a 660 reference PCB. See here: http://www.zotac.com/au/products/graphics-cards/geforce-600-series/gtx-660/product/gtx-660/detail/geforce-gtx-660/sort/starttime/order/DESC/amount/10/section/gallery.html

The image below is Zotac's reference gtx 670, with the reference 670 PCB:

bdu1346141783.jpg

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post #10889 of 13159
A little upgrade to my Silverstone TJ08-E, just waiting on an MATX X99 Combo then i'll be set as super #beast! thumb.gif











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[✓] Motherboard: ASUS Z77 Maximus Gene V MATX Motherboard
[✓] CPU: Intel i5 2500k @ 4.5Ghz
[✓] GPU 01: Sapphire AMD 290X Vapor-X 8GB @ 1105 mhz
[✓] GPU 02: Sapphire AMD 290X Vapor-X 8GB @ 1105 mhz
[✓] RAM: 16GB DDR3
[✓] SSD: 128GB
[✓] HDD: 2TB
[✓] PSU: Seasonic 1200W 80+ Platinum
[✓] CPU Block/Pump: Swiftech Apogee Drive II
[✓] GPU Block: EK Vapor-X R9 290X (x2)
[✓] Radiator: Alphacool XT45 180MM
[✓] Radiator: Alphacool UT60 120MM
[✓] Reservoir: Bitspower 5.25" Bay
[✓] Fan: Silverstone AP181 180MM
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post #10890 of 13159
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Originally Posted by MEC-777 View Post

Guaranteed the real production version will have either a single 8-pin like the Asus strix 970 or two 6-pins. Reason being is with just one 6-pin, the max it'll be able to pull is 150w (75 from 6-pin and 75 from the PCIe slot) which isn't enough, even for a standard 970.

As WiSK already said, this is simply not true, 145W is the maximum power draw for stock cards as specified by nVidia.
Quote:
Originally Posted by WiSK View Post

The MiniFitJr pins and housing are only rated for 8 amps when used in that configuration (see Molex data sheet). So 3x8x12=288W max through a 6-pin before the housing would be in danger of melting or something.

Correct thought, but only two of the three pins in the lower row are actually used for 12V power, so the total maximum of the 6pin connector is 192W.
A very good write-up can be found here: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supply-specifications-atx-reference,3061-12.html
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