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Nice SG05 miahallen So there are no problems when gaming for hours? I am really worrying if the PSU will be able to power up the GTX480. I'm thinking it will for now but in the long run, the PSU will be degraded?

Got both SG05 and SG07 and the 450w PSU but I am currently using SG07 since my reference 5870 doesn't fit the SG05

I feel I want to resurrect my SG05 lol
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Nice SG05 miahallen So there are no problems when gaming for hours? I am really worrying if the PSU will be able to power up the GTX480. I'm thinking it will for now but in the long run, the PSU will be degraded?

Got both SG05 and SG07 and the 450w PSU but I am currently using SG07 since my reference 5870 doesn't fit the SG05

I feel I want to resurrect my SG05 lol
I've never heard of PSU degredation....with the exception of a damaged PSU, or one being run way out of spec... I suppose it's possible, but chances are unlikely

I did a full power consumption analysis in my article
http://www.techreaction.net/2010/09/...-and-gigabyte/
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post #1153 of 13159
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Originally Posted by miahallen View Post
I've never heard of PSU degredation....with the exception of a damaged PSU, or one being run way out of spec... I suppose it's possible, but chances are unlikely
PSU Degradation comes from Capacitor Aging.
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Name brand 80+ PSUs like this one typically use fairly high quality capacitors that are over-rated for their use. High quality capacitors like these degrade too slowly for us enthusiasts to be concerned about....we swap out HW too frequently.

PSU degredation may be a concern for cheap, no name PSUs that any one of us enthusiasts would avoid. I'll undoubtedly get lots of critacism for this statement...but I think this "PSU degradation" thing is something we've heard about from Dell tech support horror stories

Quote:
Originally Posted by ST45SF spec sheet
MTBF 100,000 hours at 25°C, full load
That's over 11 years 24/7 at 100% load.

I'll be running maybe 30 hours per weeks max at around 72% load. So I should be set until retirement
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post #1155 of 13159
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Originally Posted by DevilGear44 View Post
Pics of my new build!

*snip

and some shiny new watercooling parts!
That is really neat. I can see the res being mounted on the side but where exactly are you putting your pump? Definitely post pics when your done.
Edited by thx1138 - 10/3/10 at 1:22pm
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That is really neat. I can see the res being mounted on the side but where exactly are you putting your pump? Definitely post pics when your done.
I'm constantly thinking and drawing up new ideas, but I want to keep this thing as compact as possible. One idea is to mount the res on the side, and put the pump on the inside facing part of the right side of the case. Another idea is to mount the res on the bottom of the handle; it'll barely fit between the graphics card and right side of the case. Just gonna have to wait and see.

But another thing that stinks is that due to the extremely small amount of space I'm working with, I'll probably have no choice but to throw a bunch of money at expensive rotary and 90 degree fittings.
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post #1157 of 13159
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Im in
And I thought I had trouble fitting my ECO in a Vulcan!

Wow. Nice job squeezing that H70 in there.

My experience was being firm the cables and not being afraid of breaking them. They won't.

But you wound them in a circle!
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Very impressive build with SG05, Didn't know a GTX 480 could fit in that + a H70.
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post #1159 of 13159
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Originally Posted by miahallen View Post
Name brand 80+ PSUs like this one typically use fairly high quality capacitors that are over-rated for their use. High quality capacitors like these degrade too slowly for us enthusiasts to be concerned about....we swap out HW too frequently.

PSU degredation may be a concern for cheap, no name PSUs that any one of us enthusiasts would avoid. I'll undoubtedly get lots of critacism for this statement...but I think this "PSU degradation" thing is something we've heard about from Dell tech support horror stories

That's over 11 years 24/7 at 100% load.

I'll be running maybe 30 hours per weeks max at around 72% load. So I should be set until retirement
After 5 years, even on high quality Jap Caps, Cap degradation comes into play and can be a concern.

MTBF falls dramatically when temps rise.
IE: it's not 5.5years @ 50*C, it'd be more like 4 years.

An average of PSU Internal temps is in the 35-40*C range which means the MTBF is in the 5-5.5years range.

Obviously there's a +/- 10% rating on most caps, and MTBF is all but useless in true determination.
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Very impressive build with SG05, Didn't know a GTX 480 could fit in that + a H70.
It won't without modifications....check out my build log
http://www.techreaction.net/forums/s...ead.php?t=3804
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