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"HD" on board audio is nothing more than on board audio. I was a firm believer on sound cards being pointless. Then i bought a X-Fi Ti.... and game play and audio in general became 100x better. Its like going from stock audio in a car to aftermarket....
if you dont believe that there is a difference.......


I'm with these guys. I grabbed a X-FI Titanium Pro back when Best Buy bent over to themselves. Best $40 I ever spent. Sound is so great and music is so clear, but I couldn't justify owning one, I am one of those content with onboard. I don't listen to music enough and when I do it's not the best quality, and I don't enjoy FPS on the PC,  But I do have an X-Fi Fatal1ty so I might as well use it so I can stream movies to my tv and game on the same system with out mixing up the sound.

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Define "real" soundcard.

If you need a definition, you don't know what quality sound is.
     
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If you need a definition, you don't know what quality sound is.

I'm sorry but this rather snide 'I don't have to tell you anything' comment really doesn't cut it with me. Either back up your argument with something substantial or take your little games elsewhere.
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Then i bought a X-Fi Ti.... and game play and audio in general became 100x better. Its like going from stock audio in a car to aftermarket....

sorry man, that's not a 'real' soundcard either. It's good but it's still a soundblaster.

I've heard sound coming out of cards like the M-audio Delta 1010, and anything from Creative just can't hold a candle to that. At one time, I was looking to get an Onkyo WAVIO for my rig but they never appeared on this side of the pond. Now i'm looking at a Xonar or better. The VIA HD audio I have now is quite good and will carry me through until something better comes along.
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post #2984 of 13167
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I'm sorry but this rather snide 'I don't have to tell you anything' comment really doesn't cut it with me. Either back up your argument with something substantial or take your little games elsewhere.

You presented a rather snide comment, so I returned the favor rolleyes.gif

I'm not sure what you want me to back it up with, you have to just listen to onboard, then listen to a dedicated card (a good one, i.e Xonar Essence, Creative Titanium HD, etc.). Assuming you have decent equipment to pair it with.
     
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post #2985 of 13167
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I'm sorry but this rather snide 'I don't have to tell you anything' comment really doesn't cut it with me. Either back up your argument with something substantial or take your little games elsewhere.
sorry man, that's not a 'real' soundcard either. It's good but it's still a soundblaster.
I've heard sound coming out of cards like the M-audio Delta 1010, and anything from Creative just can't hold a candle to that. At one time, I was looking to get an Onkyo WAVIO for my rig but they never appeared on this side of the pond. Now i'm looking at a Xonar or better. The VIA HD audio I have now is quite good and will carry me through until something better comes along.

Actually, no. You are incorrect. The X-Fi Titanium is a GREAT soundcard that doesnt break the bank. Now, the regular soundblaster is crap.

This is like talking to a child who just doesnt know any better.

Go to the sound card/audiophile forum, and ask them what they consider a good GAMING sound card. Xonar is better for music. Not for gaming.

And yes, their is a difference.
post #2986 of 13167
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Originally Posted by Captain Mayhem View Post

I'm sorry but this rather snide 'I don't have to tell you anything' comment really doesn't cut it with me. Either back up your argument with something substantial or take your little games elsewhere.
sorry man, that's not a 'real' soundcard either. It's good but it's still a soundblaster.
I've heard sound coming out of cards like the M-audio Delta 1010, and anything from Creative just can't hold a candle to that. At one time, I was looking to get an Onkyo WAVIO for my rig but they never appeared on this side of the pond. Now i'm looking at a Xonar or better. The VIA HD audio I have now is quite good and will carry me through until something better comes along.

And... as your title states you are an "audiophile"...then you would absolutely agree that on board audio is terrible compared to a decent dedicated card.

Obviously you are either misinformed... or just retarded.
post #2987 of 13167
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And... as your title states you are an "audiophile"...then you would absolutely agree that on board audio is terrible compared to a decent dedicated card.
Obviously you are either misinformed... or just retarded.

I actually lol'd.

I agree, if you have "Audiophile" as your user title, you can't possibly enjoy onboard audio...
     
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I'm willing to bet the vast majority of these people lambasting your Via HD onboard audio have no experience with the specific chipset. They are translating their poor experiences with Realtek onboard sound to generalize the quality of all such onboard sound, and that's a blatant generalization. If it's onboard, it must be bad, right?

It's possible to have a good onboard audio circuit. Just because most implementations are subpar doesn't mean they all are. There are a couple of important variables besides the chipset used (implementation on motherboard, software, et alia).
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I'm willing to bet the vast majority of these people lambasting your Via HD onboard audio have no experience with the specific chipset. They are translating their poor experiences with Realtek onboard sound to generalize the quality of all such onboard sound, and that's a blatant generalization. If it's onboard, it must be bad, right?

It's possible to have a good onboard audio circuit. Just because most implementations are subpar doesn't mean they all are. There are a couple of important variables besides the chipset used (implementation on motherboard, software, et alia).

Very true, there are "good" on-board implementations and there are "bad" on-board implementation. But nothing will come close to a dedicated card simply for the fact of dedicated circuitry makes a huge difference in sound. Then there's also the question of and other inline devices like amps, etc.

I myself enjoy the Xonar DG for it's headphone amp, but in my HTPC, I just simply use the HDMI out to let my AVR do all the dirty work.
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heh that's the thing tho. audiophiles tend to split hairs:D no self respecting audiophile would even use a receiver:D it's all pre amp / amp with power conditioner between the 2.

personally, i'm fine with onboard audio since i know i don't have good sound system hooked up to mine anyway:D. neither does majority of the gamers that come here. most people just have "computer" grade sound system that cost less then $400 on their computers. as such, the sound quality isn't that great to begin with:D yah they hear alot of bang and boom from the MW3, but not something that you enjoy on a $20,000+ audio equipment.

i mean, most computer gamers with an ear would use M-audio av40's or klipsch promedia 2.1's and call it the day. they don't really "game" on their real audio equipment:D
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