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Originally Posted by Fateful_Ikkou View Post

All this renewed talk about Tempest modding has made me think that the Tempest has just the right amount of room for a really nice WC setup. Here's a rough draft I made in MS paint. wink.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The Evo has ample water cooling capacity - just not straight out of the box.
I once read to ALWAYS have your resi above the highest block in the loop, so you can easily bleed air out and air pockets won't get trapped in the blocks.
I have rooftop rads (bleedable), and yet air still accumulates in resi over time (no matter how well I think I have bled the loop of air)
I also think it's good practice to pump out to the rad/s first to get coolest water possible to the blocks, and not transfer heat dumped from the pump into your coolant straight to the 1st block. In your pic I would think about switching your pump in/out lines.
If you have pulling fans on top I think they will still stick out the top, even with stealth rad.
Not preachin' or telling you what to do at all, just offering ideas to toss about while in planning stage smile.gif
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In mine I've gone... pump > roof rad > front rad > gpu blocks > rear rad > cpu > resi
Good luck with the lotto win - Superdraw this weekend in OZ so my ticket in and fingers crosses tongue.gif
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The Evo has ample water cooling capacity - just not straight out of the box.
I once read to ALWAYS have your resi above the highest block in the loop, so you can easily bleed air out and air pockets won't get trapped in the blocks.
I have rooftop rads (bleedable), and yet air still accumulates in resi over time (no matter how well I think I have bled the loop of air)
I also think it's good practice to pump out to the rad/s first to get coolest water possible to the blocks, and not transfer heat dumped from the pump into your coolant straight to the 1st block. In your pic I would think about switching your pump in/out lines.
If you have pulling fans on top I think they will still stick out the top, even with stealth rad.
Not preachin' or telling you what to do at all, just offering ideas to toss about while in planning stage smile.gif
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
In mine I've gone... pump > roof rad > front rad > gpu blocks > rear rad > cpu > resi
Good luck with the lotto win - Superdraw this weekend in OZ so my ticket in and fingers crosses tongue.gif

I have this setup like this to take advantage of pressure if I have it going the opposite way you will see two effects.

*1. Diminished pressure before even getting to the water blocks (although I will loose pressure on the way up through the blocks, the lowered pressure will extend the time that the heated water has in the radiators therefore transferring more heat out of the system.)

*2. All the heated water will get dumped into the Res and in turn lower the life of the pump and possibly create micro cracks in the Res.

As for the stealth read, I actually have already done this mod. I have been running a modified H50 with a Stealth 280 Rad up top but I could never get all the air out of the H50's pump and the noise eventually drove me crazy so I removed it until I can get a good 120mm rad with a fill port on it. The fans however will stick out of the top but its not as pronounced as a 40mm radiator would make it. smile.gif

As for bleeding the loop I plan to do this very differently in several ways.

*1. Submerge the rads, blocks, and tubing in distilled water to fill them and shake out all the air. (After shaking out all the leftover bubbles I will then connect them all in the order needed while Still submerged.)

*2. Create a closed loop with the pump and Res to aid in bleeding the pump outside the case.

*3. Utililize Quick disconnect fittings on the Res/Pump to insure no extra air is added back in the loop and make later maintenance much easier.

The only downside to this system is the amount of distilled water I will need but in the end this method will save me a ton of time and sanity in the bleeding process.
Edited by Fateful_Ikkou - 3/22/13 at 2:16am
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Nice work there! PSU covers make the tempest look even more sexy. thumb.gif

When I eventually get the hard cash needed to completely overhaul my Tempest this is one of the first things to make it on my list, except I want mine crafted out of aluminum and powder coated to match the rest of the case. I'm thinking about getting MNPCTECH to overhaul my case for me if I ever get the money seeing as they do amazing work. biggrin.gif

Thanks for the feedback! biggrin.gif

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Damn good for your first build. I do like the cover, and the color scheme. Very similar to what i was thinking about. Very neat looking. What is your completed look plan for the cover? Painted solid color?
Be careful with your video cards, they look like they are sagging pretty bad.

The cover I am planning is gonna be either frosted, or painted plexi with some kind of badge or design to defuse in led lighting. They make paint for lexan plastic RC car bodies that is painted on the inside of clear plastic. I think that would be cool looking. thicker plexi would it give the finish a really deep and rich look

Thank you, I took my time making it haha, next up i'm planning on mounting the NZXT hue inside that wooden box, then covering it in vinyl, modding the front of the case to allow 140mm fans and then finding a way to hide my 2 hard drives and my ssd thumb.gif Oh and not to forget i'm going to work on a sort of "holder" for the GPU's to stop them sagging smile.gif

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Really nice looking PSU cover there DMT thumb.gif I keep thinking of adding one to the bottom of my growing list of plans for my project redface.gif
I love the stuff MNPCTECH do, and if you do go for that I'm sure the finished case would look absolutely awesome biggrin.gif

In news of my own, I've now had another idea, changing the front of the case to accept 3 fans, and fabricating either an outside-of-case box for the ODD, and have a small hole near the back so I can attach it when I need it (not often), or have some sort of enclosure at the bottom of the case, facing the side panel. The upshot of this would being able to have a 360 radiator in the front when I eventually go water cooling.

Also may have found a new, and easier to use, material for fabricating my new front and top panels. It's called plasticard, and is quite popular in another hobby of mine. I'll have to think it through very carefully, as it'll obviously not be as resilient as aluminium tongue.gif

Anyway, all this is in the future, as with Fakeful_Ikkou, I need money first rolleyes.gif

That's a good idea! make sure you post pictures here of how it goes thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by fast_fate View Post

Some really great looking stuff being done here - I like it !!
Love the psu cover - this will look sweet (makes me jealous)
Excellent work on the cables !!!
As mentioned by Asustweaker - the video cards sag needs to be addressed.
Also can you straighten up the HDD mounting on the rear bay cage - it's crooked.
Top job !!!

Thank you! i'm hoping for the pc to be pretty much finished in a few months, so i'll keep you all updated on my progress with the case smile.gif the hard drives will be straightened up eventually, but at the moment i'm trying to find a way of mounting my 2 hard drives and my ssd in a neat way - so that they are not too hidden, but not showing too much. I'm thinking a custom built drive bay at the bottom of the case, but i will ahve to see how that goes thumb.gif
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Thanks for the feedback! biggrin.gif
Thank you, I took my time making it haha, next up i'm planning on mounting the NZXT hue inside that wooden box, then covering it in vinyl,modding the front of the case to allow 140mm fans and then finding a way to hide my 2 hard drives and my ssd thumb.gif Oh and not to forget i'm going to work on a sort of "holder" for the GPU's to stop them sagging smile.gifWarning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
That's a good idea! make sure you post pictures here of how it goes thumb.gif
Thank you! i'm hoping for the pc to be pretty much finished in a few months, so i'll keep you all updated on my progress with the case smile.gif the hard drives will be straightened up eventually, but at the moment i'm trying to find a way of mounting my 2 hard drives and my ssd in a neat way - so that they are not too hidden, but not showing too much. I'm thinking a custom built drive bay at the bottom of the case, but i will ahve to see how that goes thumb.gif

Create mounts for the drives on the underside of your PSU cover. thumb.gif

As for the up conversion for the fans, unless you plan to mount a 280mm rad in there I will be the first to say it's not worth it. At least not performance wise anyways. I once had a conversation about this exact idea awhile back with another member who was looking to do the same thing. Besides the fact I succeeded in making this conversion myself, all the new fans did was make more noise and disperse air ineffectively. After I discovered this I quickly switched back to 120mm's.140mm Fans are not particularly great at channeling air over distance but excel at dispersing the air in a wide pattern. I'm just trying to help save some trouble if all your after is air cooling efficiency. If it's looks your after do it, it definitely looks cool. tongue.gif
Edited by Fateful_Ikkou - 3/22/13 at 12:37pm
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^^ this,
i tried a few different 140mm fans in different configs and just was more satisfied with the 120mm's. 140's are great for exhaust and low FPI radiators. I have 2 aerocool shark blues and those do really move a lot of air. But the spread is very wide. Does not really serve well as intake fans. If you are looking for great intake fans for your GPU's i would check out these http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=257 Watch the video.

It would be much more headache over the result of converting to 140mm
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^^ this,
i tried a few different 140mm fans in different configs and just was more satisfied with the 120mm's. 140's are great for exhaust and low FPI radiators. I have 2 aerocool shark blues and those do really move a lot of air. But the spread is very wide. Does not really serve well as intake fans. If you are looking for great intake fans for your GPU's i would check out these http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=257 Watch the video.

It would be much more headache over the result of converting to 140mm

I was more worried about noise than the amount of air, I've noticed that my current 120mm's seem to push a lot of air but not very far into the case and with annoying noise amounts, I'd prefer it to be the same but with less noise. But 'm really not sure, I will be buying the Betfenix Spectre Pro blue led fans.

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Create mounts for the drives on the underside of your PSU cover. thumb.gif

As for the up conversion for the fans, unless you plan to mount a 280mm rad in there I will be the first to say it's not worth it. At least not performance wise anyways. I once had a conversation about this exact idea awhile back with another member who was looking to do the same thing. Besides the fact I succeeded in making this conversion myself, all the new fans did was make more noise and disperse air ineffectively. After I discovered this I quickly switched back to 120mm's.140mm Fans are not particularly great at channeling air over distance but excel at dispersing the air in a wide pattern. I'm just trying to help save some trouble if all your after is air cooling efficiency. If it's looks your after do it, it definitely looks cool. tongue.gif

That's a great idea! The only problem is, will it fit under the NZXT Hue which I will be mounting in the side of the cover? thumb.gif I might take some measurements when my vinyl gets here, damn snow has slowed down the delivery frown.gif
Do you recommend just keeping the front 120mm and just change them to Bitfenix Spectre Pro's then?
The only problem is the front fan holders that come with my tempest are completely destroyed now due to a modding "accident" so I thought that, while I'm making a front fan mount I may as well just go straight for 140mm's because they'd move more air at lower speeds.

By personal experience I noticed that my top 140mm's are a lot quieter than the rest of the 120mm case fans, that's why I wanted to move the front to 140mm as well.

So you all definitely think just go for 120mm's in the front again? Remember I'm not too fussed about where the air gets to, as long as it's quieter because like i said - my 120mm's don't do a great job as it is (thank you side fan thumb.gif ), but my temperatures seem good still.

So stuck on ideas right now! rolleyes.gif
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I was more worried about noise than the amount of air, I've noticed that my current 120mm's seem to push a lot of air but not very far into the case and with annoying noise amounts, I'd prefer it to be the same but with less noise. But 'm really not sure, I will be buying the Betfenix Spectre Pro blue led fans.
That's a great idea! The only problem is, will it fit under the NZXT Hue which I will be mounting in the side of the cover? thumb.gif I might take some measurements when my vinyl gets here, damn snow has slowed down the delivery frown.gif
Do you recommend just keeping the front 120mm and just change them to Bitfenix Spectre Pro's then?
The only problem is the front fan holders that come with my tempest are completely destroyed now due to a modding "accident" so I thought that, while I'm making a front fan mount I may as well just go straight for 140mm's because they'd move more air at lower speeds.

By personal experience I noticed that my top 140mm's are a lot quieter than the rest of the 120mm case fans, that's why I wanted to move the front to 140mm as well.

So you all definitely think just go for 120mm's in the front again? Remember I'm not too fussed about where the air gets to, as long as it's quieter because like i said - my 120mm's don't do a great job as it is (thank you side fan thumb.gif ), but my temperatures seem good still.

So stuck on ideas right now! rolleyes.gif

I crafted a wind tunnel using 120mm fans and have them all set real low and they are quiet and still move some air. But if your not wanting to make a wind tunnel, those 140mm fans will definitely be a lot quieter.

My windtunnel instructions: http://www.overclock.net/t/549040/nzxt-tempest-user-community/1910#post_17771913

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Holy fan blades batman!!! I love it, I bet with those at about half tilt they really start a buzzing rolleyes.gif

I like how much traffic our little thread is getting lately, keep em coming guys!!
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Holy fan blades batman!!! I love it, I bet with those at about half tilt they really start a buzzing rolleyes.gif

I like how much traffic our little thread is getting lately, keep em coming guys!!

Definitely agreed, though I seriously doubt I'll be able to contribute much, aside from maybe making some in-depth drawing plans of my ideas over the summer (i'll be moving to Ireland for 4 months, what with the total lack of job opportunities, me and my SO decided we can't sustain our flat over the summer period) redface.gif

Having said that, this might actually work out good, as I'll be able to make several plans of each of my ideas, see what works best together thumb.gif
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Sorry to hear that, the financial crisis has spread throughout the globe man. I hope you two find something in Ireland.

Look forward to seeing some new plans, and drawings.
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