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Originally Posted by phatman81 View Post
I finally got the motherboard HS's TIM'd and reinstalled (also made a tech bench from scratch the other night to get it all organized on) but realized that the heatpipe setup of the 780i leaves very little room to place anything on the back of the V10's stock TEC. At the most a thin plate, TEC and a heatsink (maybe)... Either i havge to remove a portion of the heatpipe and place low profile heatsinks on the mosfets(i think). Not sure what route i can take...

As for the stock TEC, i know that it runs @ 6V. My multimeter could not get me an amperage reading though, so i do not have that. Anyone help in narrowing down what TEC may be in there? I may go the route of replacing the stock on with a stronger aftermarket one now since the initial idea is loosing steam... (of maybe change the internals fans for more airflow?)

From V10 webpage: Power 70W (max) / Rated Current 9.8A (max) / Operation Temperature 25 ~ 70 / Fan Speed 800~2400 R.P.M / Fan Airflow 90 CFM (max) / Fan Dimension (L) 120 x (W) 25 x (H) 120 mm


Custom Thermoelectric Online Store:
look like this is what is in the V10:
75.1 watt, 9.0 amp max, 40x40mm, 130°C rated

Others in the 40x40 size:
100.1 watt, 12.0 amp max, 40x40mm, 125°C rated
141.3 watt, 15.0 amp max, 40x40mm, 125°C rated
85.1 watt, 10.0 amp max, 40x40mm, 200°C rated
100.1 watt, 12.0 amp max, 40x40mm, 200°C rated
190 watt, 13.0 amp max, 40x40mm, 125°C rated
225 watt, 15.5 amp max, 40x40mm, 125°C rated

Possible PSU if needed:
A 100W 7.5Volt 13.5Amp Highly Reliable, Universal AC input/full range single output power supply.
A 300W 12Volt 25Amp Highly Reliable, Universal AC input/full range single output power supply

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It's not a 75 watt TEC

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Edited by Ultrasonic2 (muffy) - 8/11/09 at 12:29am
post #32 of 82
Hi phatman81

I have be reading all your posts about the coolermaster v10 as I have this cooler now for about 2 weeks on my PHENOM 2 955BE and I got to say not the best cooling I have seen I think my TEC is not activating did you ever find at what temp the Tec activates.

I was thinking of taking it apart the weekend and placing the sensor really close to the CPU so I can get the thing to activate as if I overclock to 3.8GHZ it idles at around 48c start prime and it shoots to 60c I stop it as the thermal limit to my CPU is 62c and I have refitted the cooler 4 times with different thermal pastes artic sliver 5, IC diamond 7, and now OCZ extreme.

So as you can see my TEC just does not come on full power till it gets around 60c+ by that time it blue screens or I will have no CPU left its just to slow to react to the temps me personally I think the controller and sensor was calibrated with the Intel core i7 CPUs.

If you find the activating temperature let me know.

Cheers!
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post #33 of 82
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I was thinking of taking it apart the weekend and placing the sensor really close to the CPU so I can get the thing to activate as if I overclock to 3.8GHZ it idles at around 48c start prime and it shoots to 60c I stop it as the thermal limit to my CPU is 62c and I have refitted the cooler 4 times with different thermal pastes artic sliver 5, IC diamond 7, and now OCZ extreme.
It activates at 60C.

Why is the thermal limit set to 62C? Raise it up in the BIOS.
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It activates at 60C.

Why is the thermal limit set to 62C? Raise it up in the BIOS.
What do you mean raise it up in the bios? this is the CPU thermal limit you can not do anything about that 62c is the highest safest temps I can go up to without damaging the CPU here is the link to AMD spec sheet for my processor http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...False&f11=True

Your CPU is a Intel core i7 920 so your temp limit is around 100c so there is a lot of difference to mine so there is not enough room for the TEC is come on I will move the sensor the weekend to see if that helps.
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Actually those thermal limits are put in place to give you the maximum life on the product. If you went to 65 or even 70C it's not likely to reduce the product lifetime by any significant amount.
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ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

It's not a 75 watt TEC
I had a feeling, but i thought it was worth a try (i'm trying to get a full grasp of TEC's and how they are rated). Also, posting stuff like this at work does not leave me much time to comtemplate much... What other ratings would i need from the TEC to try and narrow it down?
OR... what would you reccomend as a replacement for it (that i would run independant of the V10 control box)


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So as you can see my TEC just does not come on full power till it gets around 60c+ by that time it blue screens or I will have no CPU left its just to slow to react to the temps me personally I think the controller and sensor was calibrated with the Intel core i7 CPUs.
If you find the activating temperature let me know.
I bought this before the i7 series was released (if i remember right), but the 60C activation sounds like what i have heard before, though i cant remember from where. The plastic block houses a control board and that is what controls the TEC, but all i have been able to verify so far is that it runs in the 6V range (maxing @ 6.9). Since i dont know the amperage, i cant tell if it fluctuates, and thus offer more cooling under load. Also, my CPU is maxing @ 54C at this time, so again, i may not be hitting the threshold for max cooling. The following two nights i have off, so i will be trying to conduct different tests to get to the bottom of this and hopefully be able to give definitive numbers on the threshold and amperage @ idle and load (for the V10, not the system). Hope i have some good news for ya soon...
    
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post #37 of 82
Probably the best way to find out what TEC it is, is to simply take the unit apart and clean both surfaces of the TEC off and see what it says in writing, it'll usually be like 127xx the xx being the current.
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Actually those thermal limits are put in place to give you the maximum life on the product. If you went to 65 or even 70C it's not likely to reduce the product lifetime by any significant amount.
Yes I agree but the problem with the PHENOM 2 CPU is it likes cold more then volts so I have noticed if I get it to around 4.1GHZ and the temp hits 58c it blue screens no matter what volts I use if I lower to 3.8GHZ its stable the temp is around 54c prime load but as soon as I power up my graphic cards to make some heat then the temp goes up on the cpu when it hits 58c it blue screens.

So I have realized that if I what a staple overclock then I need the TEC to come on faster not this slow I will have a try with the sensor if no look then its water cooling.
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I bought this before the i7 series was released (if i remember right), but the 60C activation sounds like what i have heard before, though i cant remember from where. The plastic block houses a control board and that is what controls the TEC, but all i have been able to verify so far is that it runs in the 6V range (maxing @ 6.9). Since i dont know the amperage, i cant tell if it fluctuates, and thus offer more cooling under load. Also, my CPU is maxing @ 54C at this time, so again, i may not be hitting the threshold for max cooling. The following two nights i have off, so i will be trying to conduct different tests to get to the bottom of this and hopefully be able to give definitive numbers on the threshold and amperage @ idle and load (for the V10, not the system). Hope i have some good news for ya soon...
Cheers for that let me know what you find if I can get this beast to fire up faster then this would save me some money but if I can’t then water cooling it will have to be but I really like the look of this cooler.
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There's a mod done to the V10 which runs the TEC %100 of the time, I've been thinking about doing it...although would love to see how this works out before I go ahead with that.
    
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