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post #11 of 38
i think you can use dye if you want but may have to clean it frequently.
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post #12 of 38
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Originally Posted by -Jeppe-
so you can't use UV dye with the storm
They recommend against it because of the internal nozzle design of the block. It has very small waterchannels that could get plugged up.
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post #13 of 38
Those channels, and also the jets that are machined into the delrin middle plate. They're very small, and any sort of UV dye carries particulates that may and will clog the jets up.
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post #14 of 38
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Originally Posted by Lando95
No one knows, there is currently a rather large debate going on about Swiftechs testing procedures. Swiftech claims the Apogee is better, but Cathar said that he cannot reproduce the results that Swiftech did. Cathar believes the Storm is better.
Personally I find their wording a little funny...from Swiftnet:

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Originally Posted by Swiftnets.com
As a result the Apogee water-block may outperform our STORM model by a up to 1°C (at 100 Watts thermal load and 1.0 GPM),
At any rate, even if it is a little less vs a little more (+/-1°C) effective, I save for $20-30 less, give it a try...I don't think you can go wrong with it.
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I wanna know 2 >.<
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post #16 of 38
the storm is much better than the apogee at higher flow rates/pressures due to the jet impengement design

the apogee will perform better at lower flowrates <1 GPM though


overall, if you're building a high-end system with a high-end pump (D5/MCP655) then definitely go with the Storm
    
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post #17 of 38
I love my G4 block that came with my APEX kit. It idles at about 2 degrees above room temps. and loads at 41-43 with 1.5 vcore.
I didn't like the way Swiftech raised the price of the G4 and offered the appogee at a lower price though...seems kinda low to me. If it's a better block it should be the other way around.
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post #18 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by busa
I love my G4 block that came with my APEX kit. It idles at about 2 degrees above room temps. and loads at 41-43 with 1.5 vcore.
I didn't like the way Swiftech raised the price of the G4 and offered the appogee at a lower price though...seems kinda low to me. If it's a better block it should be the other way around.
Excellent point...not to mention per their site they have R&D + patent costs buried in it. The likelyhood is that since they purchased rights to manufacture the Storm they are probably paying royalties on them so the price needs to be higher so they can make some $$$ on it as well...but still, I do agree the apogee should be closer to the same cost...it's like they are lowballing to get marketshare. If it is as good as they say it will sell. In fact, I would bet that if they offered it for say only $5-10 less than the Storm they would move more because people would believe it is as good. Got to love consumer psychology!
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post #19 of 38
anyone know who still sells the storm for a good price?
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post #20 of 38
Quote:
Originally Posted by sauronrx
anyone know who still sells the storm for a good price?
They're pretty much the same price where ever you look, around $75 USD... but I just saw it on sale at CrazyPC for $59.99!!! I've ordered from that store before. They don't have the fastest shipping last I checked but they have a broad range of parts and decent prices. Give them a look.
    
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