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first of all i have a 2600+ barton, with a locked multi and a VIA mobo that limits my FSB to 200. im not gonna get any new stuff (mobo or chip) for this, so right now i'm just gonna stick with what i've got. i had it stable at 192fsb and 1.675vcore, i got a better fan, so i thought that i could push up the fsb and the vcore if needed because the temps were what were holing me back, so i went to 195FSB and it wasn't stable at 1.675vcore anymore, so i put it to 1.7, still not stable, i went to 197FSB and 1.725cvore because i figured that much more vcore should make it stable, and the temps were fine, so i might as well go for 2 more FSB. my vdimm is set at 2.8 (high as the mobo goes). at this point my ddr400 ram is at 394mhz, and i believe that the timings are 2.5-3-3-8. do i need to losen up the timings a bit to get what i want (200fsb, so ram is back at 400), or do i need more vcore. my temps right now with the 197fsb are 36c idle and 41c load. (it fails prime after 6 mins or so every time). thanks for the help

EDIT: reason i dont know the timings for sure is because my large HDD just ate it and i havn't redownloaded cpuz yet..... 100gigs gone....
post #2 of 27
What is the stock bus speed for the cpu, if its 166 then your pretty close to your limit being VIA chipset.
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post #3 of 27
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yea stock is 166, my mobo max is 200 my goal is 200fsb times my 11.5 multi to get 2300mhz.

my question is it ram timings or voltage or just bad mobo thats holding me back
post #4 of 27
What VIA chipset is it?

EDIT: Wait, nevermind, same as me. Almost. Good little mobo.

On the Memory timings page in the BIOS, do you have the option to change your memory multiplier? Set it to the lowest setting and bump the RAM voltage up to about 2.85 if you havn't done so already. (I have budget memory too, it can take it.)
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post #5 of 27
Motherboard more than likely, I wouldn't go any higher with the vcore, you will reach a point when it won't stablize your system. you might losen your timmings more 3 4 4 8. what you have reached so far is good for that motherboard, better motherboard will get you more.
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post #6 of 27
He may only need a 2.5-4-4-8, who knows till he tries both options
Check the RAMs stability with memtest86 ... the following method speeds up things with it too!
A quick test complements of ncsa
When you boot to memtest it auto starts - pressing C 1 3 x <enter> <enter> starts to loop the test where x is the test number.

Once you have done this it will only loop that test until reset or configured for another test.

Tests 5 & 6 are quicker but 8 is more accurate once you start to settle down the OC and the timings / Vdimm.
    
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post #7 of 27
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i dont know offhand what type of VIA it is, but i can see the chip that says VIA on it, and there are a bunch of numbers, the numbers right below where it says VIA are VT8235. is that the chipset type or just like a serial number? so increasing vcore now would be a fruitless endevor? the fact that my mobos max fsb is 200 doesn't in fact mean that i can get to that, even though the CPU should be able to handle more? is that what you guys are saying?

could i get a link for memtest?
post #8 of 27
Yes, the KT600 may hit 200MHz but no gurantee.
If you can increase the chip set (VIA) voltage, up it 0.1v it may help if your BIOS has that option.
Yes, that "VT8235" is the chips id part/series #.
    
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post #9 of 27
http://www.memtest86.com/

That is the chipset, not the serial number.
I think the memery is holding you back, although my VIA mobo isn't too super at handing out high vcore. You're pushing it alot harder than I do mine, so I'm not totaly sure what's doing it. I wish you luck, though!
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post #10 of 27
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chipset voltage eh, i dont know if i have that one, i'll have to check. other than that the solution MIGHT be to loosen the timings some, if neither of those, then its just the old mobos fault. is this what the consensus is then?
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