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post #1 of 19
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Please I dont know why ! i Reinstalled many times de Cooler and still VEry Hot! 75-80° ! its all correct connected.
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post #2 of 19
Are there sufficient RPM's on the cooler? I know the stock intel coolers suck, but not that bad. Those are dangerous temps! Try plugging the fan into a molex connecter straight from the PS instead of into the mobo - it may be a fan control issue. Also, what thermal compound are you using?

EDIT: Are those Farenheit or Celsius temps? Because 80 degrees F is like 25 degrees C, which would be an excellent idle temp.
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Doubt he is getting 25c on stock air, Are you getting those readings from the BIOS?
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Yeah, it could be a temp sensor error.
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post #5 of 19
Is the heatsink base completely touching the cpu ?
You should make sure all four pins are correctly inserted when installing Intel's heatsink for Prescott cpus.
What you should do is firmly press down on the pins (2 at a time in a diagonal manner... check the manual for more info) until you hear a clicking sound to confirm the heatsink is properly seated.
However, BE VERY CAREFUL when pressing on the pins because if they are not well aligned with the motherboard holes you will end up breaking them.
That's what I did.
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post #6 of 19
WOW! man those temps are bad. It could very well be a sensor reading error or something of the like, becuase those temps are incredible. Like the other dude said, make sure the heatsink is seated right, because this can really screw you if its not done correctly.
Also, what thermal compound you using???

Unless those temps are in *F, then i wouldnt even turn the thing on. Running a machine with those kind of temps, can be detrimental to its durability.

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post #7 of 19
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i´m tested on BIOs temp and that say ... 75-80C this is dangerous ! i never seen something like that ! this is my new PC all components are new.
even my prescott 3.2 ht dont reach 50C !! hmm...everest ultimate says...73-74C, Probe2 says that too ! the RPM is around 3000-4000 with Fan Control in bios set for performance ! the cooler is well set ! i really worry about ! i need this for my work with video...but ! if i use that..i dead maybe can reach 100c ! no way !
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post #8 of 19
please post a screen shot of your temps please...I believe those temps would be in F, not C. My northwood runs at 19C Idle, so I don't know what the fuss is all about.

you might try and swap the mobo for something else just as a test...check with guys at compUSA
post #9 of 19
EncryptorX, In your first post you said you have re-installed the heatsink many times.
Did you change/remove the thermal paste that comes attached to Intel's stock heatsink in the form of a thermal pad and replace it with something else ?
You might wanna check this post out: http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041103/cooler-02.html
Check the part where it says: "What is interesting is the result for thermal resistance. The cooler reaches just 0.37 K/W with the heat-conducting paste supplied with it, which is applied to the cooler in a similar way to a heat-conducting pad. When conventional heat-conducting paste is used, the thermal resistance rises to 0.51 K/W! For this reason, we recommend that you use the accompanying heat-conducting paste."

One more thing, it is normal to see slightly higher temperatures in the bios than when you check them in Windows XP.
The bios normally includes a correction to the temperatures (it slightly raises them). Check this link for more information: http://www.heatsink-guide.com/conten...=maxtemp.shtml

Also check this link on how NT based Window versions (WinNT, Win2000 and WinXP) use the "idle task" concept that basically involves sending a special command (HALT) to the CPU. This causes parts of the processor to shut down for a short period of time in order to save energy and reduce thermal loss: http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2004...m4_570-03.html

So I would say that temperatures in Probe2 and Everest (which are loaded after Windows XP in your case is running and using the "idle task") should be lower than the ones in BIOS when no operating system is running yet.
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post #10 of 19
Still, even in Windows at 74 C idle, that is crazy hot. As z_one said, make sure the thermal pad is removed (although that still shouldn't boost temps that high). The only way for sure to know if its a temp sensor error is to put it in a different motherboard, as tomasro said. You might try asking someone at CompUSA, but I don't know if they'd have a right board for your socket lying around. You might have to yell at the tech shop or purchase a board and swap yourself. There's no free installs there anymore.

P.S. I work at CompUSA and reserve the right to bash them. Oh, and tomasro, which store do you go to? I work customer service at the Roseville, CA store.
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