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tonight i take a screenshot for u guys! and more info..when i turn on the pc
and go to the bios de temp increases 1°c per 30sec. and stop in 7.5-7.4° C

this is crazy ! hehe now i am working with my prescott 3.2, cos de 64x is offline until i can solve this ! i clean the thermal paste,and replaces is all ok the connection with de CPu ! let me know if this can be a problem with de cpu ? really strange i can´t think why ! sorry for disturb u guys.
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tonight i take a screenshot for u guys! and more info..when i turn on the pcand go to the bios de temp increases 1°c per 30sec. and stop in 7.5-7.4° C
this is crazy ! hehe now i am working with my prescott 3.2, cos de 64x is offline until i can solve this ! i clean the thermal paste,and replaces is all ok the connection with de CPu ! let me know if this can be a problem with de cpu ? really strange i can´t think why ! sorry for disturb u guys.
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post #13 of 19
Reset the heatsink, reapply as5, just a BB size amount, let the heatsink spread it, also reset you cmos, maybe update the bios.
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tonight i take a screenshot for u guys! and more info..when i turn on the pcand go to the bios de temp increases 1°c per 30sec. and stop in 7.5-7.4° C
this is crazy ! hehe now i am working with my prescott 3.2, cos de 64x is offline until i can solve this ! i clean the thermal paste,and replaces is all ok the connection with de CPu ! let me know if this can be a problem with de cpu ? really strange i can´t think why ! sorry for disturb u guys.

Ok now that sounds like a temp sensor issue. Is your computer hyperthrottling at all. My motherboard says temps of 52 on idle and 67 under prime95 but never hyperthrottles or goes above 67. I run a zalmans 7700 and i think i broke the sensor because my computer runs fine. I would check to see if its hyperthrottles and if not dont worry its just a sensor issue. Also I have yet to see a pentium 4 burn up, I think they just cool by themselves when they get too hot.
post #15 of 19
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hmm look . i reseted the bios and put the sensor of my case and reinstalled de cpu. i put a very small amount of thermal paste and pulished that..turned on ! hmm tell me if this is a good temp for now... idle 58-60c -- playing doom 3 about 2hr for test and 70C. i think that was something with the paste. and Asus probe2 and everest tells that 58-60 really idle ! hhehee but the RPM of that **** is about 5000 ! guys what kind of cooler i can buy ? i see the zalmans 7700cu is nice but is that compatible ? cos is really big hehe maybe a water cooler ??
remember i am from brazil ! here the things are really expansive ! i see a COOLER THERMALTAKE TOWER112 - 57 U$ from www.a1nettrading.com.megaloja.com cost to me about 300R$... !! really thanks for ur help ! i hope that i can help u too!
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post #16 of 19
try and swap the mobo at a local computer store before you go extreme with buying a new HSF...the 7700 will fit most anything, but check the compatibility on the zalman website. If you are really worried about cooling and think these temps are legit, go with an XP-90 or XP-120. They offer the potential to bring your temps way way down. But I still think you have a fried sensor.

Try this: take off the side of your case and get prime95 going or run doom3 for a bit, and then touch the current HSF. does it hurt to touch the HSF or is is just barely warm? If it is truely 70C (158F) then you should almost burn yourself. Don't worry, because any CPU running at those temps would fall apart quickly. Also, check the ambient temp in your case by putting a thermometer (the classic red kind) in the case and closing it back up. Get the computer running at 100% for a while and then take off the side of the case and tell us what the temp is. If it is really high, then you might have a bad air flow issue, and not so much a bad HSF issue.

Also, when you say you are putting on your thermal paste, are you putting it on and then polishing it off? It sounds like it from your past post. Remember to put a thin layer of paste between the processor and the heatsink, since it is designed just to get in those small grooves.

Lastly, what is the ambient temperature in your computer room?
post #17 of 19
All right, I'll try to answer your points one by one, to the best of my knowledge.

1- When you install the sensor of your case you should not place it in a location where there's an air current (like near the rear exhaust fan) because it will most likely give you false readings (usually lower than the real ones).
I just thought I'd mention that since you said you installed the case sensor.

2- The thermal paste should preferably be a brand name compound. Many overclockers use Arctic Silver 5 (check this link to know where you can buy it... they have a couple resellers in Brazil): http://www.arcticsilver.com/dealers_...stributors.htm
As for applying any thermal compound you should put a very thin layer to cover ALL the cpu surface. The thinner the better. If it's too thick it will prevent correct heat transfer from the cpu to the heatsink. Check this link (it helped me a lot): http://www.heatsink-guide.com/conten...compound.shtml

3- I still think your idle temps are high. Normally you wouldn't want to exceed 60C during load time. Check this page right from Intel's website about Pentium 4 thermal specifications (hint: scroll down until you see a specs table): http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/rese...ence/99346.htm

4- The Zalman CNPS7700-Cu is compatible with your CPU and it's definitely a good air cooler (just make sure you get the Cu not the AlCu because copper transfers heat faster and better than Aluminum).
What you should check if the compatibility with your mobo. I mean you need to know if the 120mm fan will fit in your system without touching any of the surrounding components. I once tried to install the Big Typhoon on my P5LD2-VM (Mini-ATX mobo) and I couldn't because it hit the PSU.
For more info about the Zalman cooler check this link: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/...?idx=145&code=
Water cooling is even a better option but it will cost you a lot more and generally requires a bit of expertise for installation (unless it's a pre-connected system like the Thermaltake Silent Water which I plan on buying soon ).
Check this link for a review on Silent Water: http://www.overclockercafe.com/Revie..._Silent_Water/

Hope I helped !
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post #18 of 19
try updating your bios and see if it solves the issue.. else by a 3rd party cooler as stock coolers really suck!!
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Yep, as stated before, change your Thermal paste.
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