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post #51 of 60
11/29/05 at 10:54am
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Game gear was the ownage of Gameboy.. It was just ahead of its time and was a beast at sucking up batteries...
Not really ahead of its time, that doesn't make sense. It's problems were the battery life, as you said; it's price point, which was too high; it's developer support, which was not as deep as Nintendo's; and sheer marketing, "GameBoy" was already a homonym for "portable video game" by that time.

There have been several handhelds that have been technically superior to the GameBoy, but none have come close to unseating Nintendo.
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post #52 of 60
11/29/05 at 10:59am
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Uber 1337 PSP? Hardly. Horrible battery life, dead pixels, drive problems and "ooooo look it can be an iPod! Except you have to spend hundreds more on tiny flash sticks! How 1337!!11!1one!" And last I checked DS had a better selection of games. Heck Id rather have a Gamegear than a PSP. At least it actually had some nice games for it.
Um, check again. The catalog for the DS really kind of blows (or I would own one). Unless you want a port of Mario 64 or yet another Mario Kart game, anyway. Not that the PSP's catalog is where it should be this late into its lifespan, but it is definitely more interesting that the DS catalog. Give me GTA over Nintendogs any frickin' day. (And don't say that's not a fair comparison, Nintendogs is the #1 DS game by far.)

People that crack on the PSP obviously don't have one. Go back and dig up some of my pre-PSP release posts, you will find that I was skeptical as all heck about it. Now that I've had one for six months, it's practically my #1 gaming system.
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12/1/05 at 6:13am
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People that crack on the PSP obviously don't have one. Go back and dig up some of my pre-PSP release posts, you will find that I was skeptical as all heck about it. Now that I've had one for six months, it's practically my #1 gaming system.
I was also very skeptical of how good the PSP was until I actually played my friends GTA, Lumines and Wipeout. I was fairly impressed by it and im not a handheld fan really.
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12/1/05 at 12:06pm
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Um, check again. The catalog for the DS really kind of blows (or I would own one). Unless you want a port of Mario 64 or yet another Mario Kart game, anyway. Not that the PSP's catalog is where it should be this late into its lifespan, but it is definitely more interesting that the DS catalog. Give me GTA over Nintendogs any frickin' day. (And don't say that's not a fair comparison, Nintendogs is the #1 DS game by far.)

People that crack on the PSP obviously don't have one. Go back and dig up some of my pre-PSP release posts, you will find that I was skeptical as all heck about it. Now that I've had one for six months, it's practically my #1 gaming system.
Well, now there are some games coming out for it. I think that developers were kinda like "***, how do we work with this" when it was first introduced, Nintendo new exactly what to do with it, and I think with the Revolution now, the developers will be more open-minded after this lack of DS games.
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12/1/05 at 12:33pm
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Well, now there are some games coming out for it. I think that developers were kinda like "***, how do we work with this" when it was first introduced, Nintendo new exactly what to do with it, and I think with the Revolution now, the developers will be more open-minded after this lack of DS games.
I think the still same applies for the Revolution.

How many uses can you find for the control design that will actually make games that will sell?

Sure the japanese comercial depicted a bunch of people swinging around the remote doing god knows what.. and seriously for half of the things demonstrated would you seriously buy them?

but I do have one question though, Will the controller work if swung off screen? Say.. like for a golf game it could make for interesting play. But in every article I read they only refer to point and click basically.

But in all seriousness. In some of your previous posts Jori you said how the 360 and the PS3 wont have any gameplay when compared to the new fresh thing of the Revolution. How fresh can it be? We are bound to see a limited amount of useful applications, and really how fun will it be pointing, clicking swinging or doing what ever you are doing.

A control is a control, but its the way you manipulate the character in game is what makes good gameplay, not the controller interface. The controller will add to the ease of how certain games may be played, and add to the level of fun you will have... But still it seems limited.

My example is for all that sword fighting and stuff.... Why havn't wee seen it in arcades then? Seeing as they have been using all different kinds for sensor technology. Im still not satisfied with the idea that it will be a smash hit.
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post #56 of 60
12/1/05 at 12:58pm
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I think the still same applies for the Revolution.

How many uses can you find for the control design that will actually make games that will sell?

Sure the japanese comercial depicted a bunch of people swinging around the remote doing god knows what.. and seriously for half of the things demonstrated would you seriously buy them?

but I do have one question though, Will the controller work if swung off screen? Say.. like for a golf game it could make for interesting play. But in every article I read they only refer to point and click basically.

But in all seriousness. In some of your previous posts Jori you said how the 360 and the PS3 wont have any gameplay when compared to the new fresh thing of the Revolution. How fresh can it be? We are bound to see a limited amount of useful applications, and really how fun will it be pointing, clicking swinging or doing what ever you are doing.

A control is a control, but its the way you manipulate the character in game is what makes good gameplay, not the controller interface. The controller will add to the ease of how certain games may be played, and add to the level of fun you will have... But still it seems limited.

My example is for all that sword fighting and stuff.... Why havn't wee seen it in arcades then? Seeing as they have been using all different kinds for sensor technology. Im still not satisfied with the idea that it will be a smash hit.
I wasnt saying they wont have any gameplay, im just saying it will have the same gameplay. Oh sure, you have more to do in a game now, but it will just repeat what options you have had from the past 3 other titles in that series (unless it gets 10 button strings of combo's.. or something). Not saying thats bad though, because alot of games have been able to do it by making a new fresh good storyline. And dont go on Japanese commercials... Their culture is really different.. And so is how the advertise things lol. A older system actually had sensors; it was for a martial arts game. But it failed because you had to know martial arts in order to not get your ass whooped around... But this is a completely new idea, dont try to compare it to some recycled arcade game, it will still sell great in Japan, and good in the US. People are skeptic I think because .
A. They dont know jack about it
B. They are just fanboys
C. They are just bias and think their t.v. remote is identicle to what you can do with the revolution..
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post #57 of 60
12/1/05 at 1:14pm
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Well, now there are some games coming out for it. I think that developers were kinda like "***, how do we work with this" when it was first introduced,
Yes, I think that's very true. I still don't really see much point to the touch screen. I can see limited use for the second screen, but I think that expending the cost of that second screen on more powerful hardware for a single screen (keeping the overall system cost the same) would suit my tastes better.

Oh well. If the DS releases some games I want, I'll buy one; if not, it will be one of the few I wind up not getting. It's not as if I need more games to play, I'm so backlogged and play so much now that my wife is going to cut me off one of these days. She has really learned to hate Civilization IV, let me tell you...
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12/1/05 at 1:19pm
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Yes, I think that's very true. I still don't really see much point to the touch screen. I can see limited use for the second screen, but I think that expending the cost of that second screen on more powerful hardware for a single screen (keeping the overall system cost the same) would suit my tastes better.

Oh well. If the DS releases some games I want, I'll buy one; if not, it will be one of the few I wind up not getting. It's not as if I need more games to play, I'm so backlogged and play so much now that my wife is going to cut me off one of these days. She has really learned to hate Civilization IV, let me tell you...
Well a FF:CC is suppose to be coming out for it along with some other titles. Plus youll be able to do stuff with a DS-Revolution WiFi thing...

I find it funny that Sony (possible the most scandulous company IMO) thinks the Revolution controller is a pos, and the DS is retarded.. But Microsoft (possibly a little more trustworthy? lol) praises Nintendo for its innovation.
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12/1/05 at 4:17pm
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I find it funny that Sony (possible the most scandulous company IMO) thinks the Revolution controller is a pos, and the DS is retarded.. But Microsoft (possibly a little more trustworthy? lol) praises Nintendo for its innovation.
Lets not forget that Nintendo (A bullpoop company who backstabs in public LOL) lead to the creation of Sony PlayStation

Of course Sony is going to be bitter towards Nintendo, I bet you would be too if you where humiliated at a video game convention when unveiling your new system only to have Nintendo say "Buh Bye Sony Thanks for giving us your ideas and cooperation"
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12/1/05 at 5:47pm
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Lets not forget that Nintendo (A bullpoop company who backstabs in public LOL) lead to the creation of Sony PlayStation

Of course Sony is going to be bitter towards Nintendo, I bet you would be too if you where humiliated at a video game convention when unveiling your new system only to have Nintendo say "Buh Bye Sony Thanks for giving us your ideas and cooperation"
So now they are still mad at Nintendo even if there past 2 consoles have sold more? lol.. If anything, they should be praising Nintendo.. Oh well, Sony is a jackass and doesnt really even consider Microsoft or Nintendo a thread.. If anything I just want their ego gone.
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