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Great mod for air cooling, I love it a lot.
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post #3922 of 8657
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Originally Posted by kzinti1 View Post

There's still no reason that the side panels and top plate couldn't be made of more easily moddable aluminum. They could even be produced as an optional accessory.
I have no real problem with a steel frame. Not that it couldn't easily be replaced during the manufacturing process with square aluminum tubing and the panels fleshed out in a monocoque fashion at a fairly reasonable price. Neither cheap nor exorborant in either cost of materiel or retooling. Just the will to do it.
Yes, I know about the problems of corrosion from direct contact between dissimilar metals. I also know there are many easy, cheap workarounds to that little problem. Treating galvanic corrosion and preventing it from recurring was part of my job in the Air Force.
I've also never seen a SilverStone case I would buy. Only because they're so damned ugly.
If I didn't like my Corsair cases I would've stopped buying them after I bought the 700D.
How much would it actually cost for Corsair to have given us an extra inch of space behind the motherboard tray for proper routing and concealment of the wiring? The side panel of my 700D just popped open as I'm typing this. Again. It's a rats nest back there but it's the best I can do with what little space there is to work with.

One at a time...

1. Could the side and top panels be made out of more easily moddable aluminum? Yes. It would have cost more, but to be honest, we spent a lot more on parts that didn't need to be overbuilt. The 800D was our first case, and is just over 2 years old now. We learned a lot of stuff when we developed it - and from the way you guys use them. To be honest, if we wanted to design a successor to the 800D, all we'd have to do is browse this thread, see what mods 80% of the people are making, and just build that into the next version. Problem solved. Well, one problem solved...

2. The dissimilar metals thing can be gotten around, you're right. Especially if you've coated the metals and don't use them in corrosive environments like outdoors. Not too terribly worried about that, and we're not planning to rivet through uncoated aluminum into uncoated steel anytime soon.

3. How much would it have cost to put an extra inch? Hmm...well let's see. The 800D/700D are 9 inches wide. Assuming they're 10 Inches wide by the same height, that means the box has to get at least an inch wider. Likely 1.5"-2" wider due to the extra weight of the chassis as well. Assuming that the box is now 2" wider, and the current box is 13 5/16" wide, we're about 15 1/4" wide, which is about 10%-15% wider. Assuming this cuts our container loading by similar numbers, 15%, then we add another few bucks to the cost of shipping, not to mention the cost of the metal itself. So my guess, conservatively, is that it would have pushed the 800D over $299 and to about $319 or so.

But that's just the technical answer - the real answer is that we wanted an inch behind the motherboard tray, and with zip ties, we've found that was sufficient. Nonetheless, it's something people want more of, so we'd definitely look at it for future revisions or cases. The 600T (our next case, came out a full year after the 800D) has well over an inch back there due to the curvature. And the 650D also has more room.

We're getting better with each generation. But you're right - the 800D is a classic and is aging gracefully, but we're not going to just sit here while our competitors try to eat our lunch. We've got plans. Lots and lots of plans.
post #3923 of 8657
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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

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We're getting better with each generation. But you're right - the 800D is a classic and is aging gracefully, but we're not going to just sit here while our competitors try to eat our lunch. We've got plans. Lots and lots of plans.

Thats good to know wink.gif
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post #3924 of 8657
I like the sound of that smile.gif
post #3925 of 8657
I managed to stuff several sleeved wires behind the 800D. There's just enough thickness there but with some creative thinking you can use the massive area of the 800D to route the cables.


I would love to see a 1000D with missles and lambo doors biggrin.gif. Or just one that supports more rads smile.gif
post #3926 of 8657
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Originally Posted by wermad View Post

I managed to stuff several sleeved wires behind the 800D. There's just enough thickness there but with some creative thinking you can use the massive area of the 800D to route the cables.
I would love to see a 1000D with missles and lambo doors biggrin.gif. Or just one that supports more rads smile.gif

Lambo doors are so played out Lambourhinis don't even have them anymore.
post #3927 of 8657
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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

Lambo doors are so played out Lambourhinis don't even have them anymore.

Only the baby lambo (Gallardo) wink.gif. It also needs to shoot death-ray-beams and have neon lights under the body. I'll bet my pink slip it would run 10s on the 1/4 mile biggrin.gif
post #3928 of 8657
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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by kzinti1 View Post

There's still no reason that the side panels and top plate couldn't be made of more easily moddable aluminum. They could even be produced as an optional accessory.
I have no real problem with a steel frame. Not that it couldn't easily be replaced during the manufacturing process with square aluminum tubing and the panels fleshed out in a monocoque fashion at a fairly reasonable price. Neither cheap nor exorborant in either cost of materiel or retooling. Just the will to do it.
Yes, I know about the problems of corrosion from direct contact between dissimilar metals. I also know there are many easy, cheap workarounds to that little problem. Treating galvanic corrosion and preventing it from recurring was part of my job in the Air Force.
I've also never seen a SilverStone case I would buy. Only because they're so damned ugly.
If I didn't like my Corsair cases I would've stopped buying them after I bought the 700D.
How much would it actually cost for Corsair to have given us an extra inch of space behind the motherboard tray for proper routing and concealment of the wiring? The side panel of my 700D just popped open as I'm typing this. Again. It's a rats nest back there but it's the best I can do with what little space there is to work with.

One at a time...

1. Could the side and top panels be made out of more easily moddable aluminum? Yes. It would have cost more, but to be honest, we spent a lot more on parts that didn't need to be overbuilt. The 800D was our first case, and is just over 2 years old now. We learned a lot of stuff when we developed it - and from the way you guys use them. To be honest, if we wanted to design a successor to the 800D, all we'd have to do is browse this thread, see what mods 80% of the people are making, and just build that into the next version. Problem solved. Well, one problem solved...

2. The dissimilar metals thing can be gotten around, you're right. Especially if you've coated the metals and don't use them in corrosive environments like outdoors. Not too terribly worried about that, and we're not planning to rivet through uncoated aluminum into uncoated steel anytime soon.

3. How much would it have cost to put an extra inch? Hmm...well let's see. The 800D/700D are 9 inches wide. Assuming they're 10 Inches wide by the same height, that means the box has to get at least an inch wider. Likely 1.5"-2" wider due to the extra weight of the chassis as well. Assuming that the box is now 2" wider, and the current box is 13 5/16" wide, we're about 15 1/4" wide, which is about 10%-15% wider. Assuming this cuts our container loading by similar numbers, 15%, then we add another few bucks to the cost of shipping, not to mention the cost of the metal itself. So my guess, conservatively, is that it would have pushed the 800D over $299 and to about $319 or so.

But that's just the technical answer - the real answer is that we wanted an inch behind the motherboard tray, and with zip ties, we've found that was sufficient. Nonetheless, it's something people want more of, so we'd definitely look at it for future revisions or cases. The 600T (our next case, came out a full year after the 800D) has well over an inch back there due to the curvature. And the 650D also has more room.

We're getting better with each generation. But you're right - the 800D is a classic and is aging gracefully, but we're not going to just sit here while our competitors try to eat our lunch. We've got plans. Lots and lots of plans.


I really appreciate that CorsairGeorge. There is another way to get space there at the factory level. Corsair has already done it with the Carbide Series 400R.

Of course this could be done so it looks quite a bit better on Corsair's flagship cases. But, Corsair can and has already done this rather simple task with their cheapest case.

I'm all for Corsair making a side panel like this and offering it as an option. I'd certainly buy a pair of them if they were given a more subtle look than the panel on the 400R.

The only other changes to the 800DW I'd personally like to see, is get rid of those hot-swap bays. That would cost less to manufacture and I really am not aware of that many people that actually care for that feature. I'd much rather have plain, removable hdd bays that can easily be removed in favor of using the space for a one to three fan radiator mounted vertically up front. The only other change? Do not supply any fans at all with these cases. You can't get a cheaper factory mod than completely leaving something out. Just make sure you advertise that the reason you do not include any fans is that the majority of buyers will use their own choice of fans because they are "Real" computer enthusiasts. I guess you can tell I'd never make it in the PR business!

The only thing I own from Corsair that has its original fan is my AX1200 psu. I'd change that, too, if it were easily done and wouldn't void the warranty. Too noisy for my taste.

To be perfectly honest, I've never met a Corsair fan I liked. I've changed the fans on both of my Corsair cases, and most other brands, as well. And also my pair of H100 and H70 closed-loop watercooling systems.

I hope you haven't taken my criticism's of the Corsair 700D and 800DW cases as anything other than constructive. I love these cases. They could just use a little alteration at the factory level.

Plus, black is becoming almost as boring as all blue LED's on other cases. I couldn't help but notice that your white colored cases have sometimes completely sold out, so I'm certainly not the only person who feels this way.

Thanks for taking the time to read my posts and thanks for your responses.

 

 

 

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post #3929 of 8657
I'll buy a case right now if it is available with an aftermarket full-plexi side panel. These tiny windows aren't enough, I want a full window showing everything tongue.gif
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I'll buy a case right now if it is available with an aftermarket full-plexi side panel. These tiny windows aren't enough, I want a full window showing everything tongue.gif

like what i've done? And btw people 3m 4010 tape works AMAZINGLYYYY. (the pic shown was with velcro tape, hence its slipping of at the back..NOT ANYMORE biggrin.gif)
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