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Ugh I want to go hardline so badly. Also, why can't there be any microcenters anywhere near me? I wish I could just run to the store and grab WC pumps and Mayhems. tongue.gif

Also what are the midplate pass-throughs actually called. Having a hard time locating them on PPC's page.
Edited by MURDoctrine - 4/12/17 at 10:40pm
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Ugh I want to go hardline so badly. Also, why can't there be any microcenters anywhere near me? I wish I could just run to the store and grab WC pumps and Mayhems. tongue.gif

Also what are the midplate pass-throughs actually called. Having a hard time locating them on PPC's page.

Try searching for bulkhead fittings.
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post #104113 of 104925
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Hi all,

Sharing my 1st WC custom loop & do provide me some feedback of my current design. Thanks

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Hmmm... well it will certainly work fine, however I would have to say it's unnecessarily complex. It appears you are using tubing runs to make sure you have a radiator after each block - however in practice this actually doesn't do what you think it does. On your diagram you indicate 'hot' and 'cold' sides... which seems right but in reality the fluid temperature will equalize rapidly regardless of component order. I know it probably doesn't seem like that works... but trust me it does. I used to think I needed to have my CPU always first in my loop because it generated more heat and needed 'cooler water'. Now almost every build I do has the GPU(s) straight off the pump and straight into the CPU... followed by all the radiators... and the temperatures are exactly the same. biggrin.gif

I would just run the GPU blocks together (if you put two tubing runs between them they'll be parallel and it will flow a little better).

You might consider a run like this: Pump->CPU->Top Radiator->Back Radiator->Side Radiator->Top GPU->Bottom GPU->Reservoir
(The main reason I suggest this order is you wouldn't have to change as much of your loop as the first part is already in place this way... if you redo everything later I'd just run from the closest block/radiator to the next closest unless you're doing it for looks more than performance.)

That would make the runs cleaner and shorter and wouldn't change the cooling capacity at all - in fact, it might cool slightly better as there will now be a little less restriction and there will be much better airflow through the case to help cool anything that doesn't have a block on it.

That being said, welcome to watercooling! thumb.gif (And definitely just enjoy using your build before worrying about the next update... once you start, it gets very addictive!)
Edited by DiGiCiDAL - 4/13/17 at 2:28am
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Hmmm... well it will certainly work fine, however I would have to say it's unnecessarily complex. It appears you are using tubing runs to make sure you have a radiator after each block - however in practice this actually doesn't do what you think it does. On your diagram you indicate 'hot' and 'cold' sides... which seems right but in reality the fluid temperature will equalize rapidly regardless of component order. I know it probably doesn't seem like that works... but trust me it does. I used to think I needed to have my CPU always first in my loop because it generated more heat and needed 'cooler water'. Now almost every build I do has the GPU(s) straight off the pump and straight into the CPU... followed by all the radiators... and the temperatures are exactly the same. biggrin.gif

I would just run the GPU blocks together (if you put two tubing runs between them they'll be parallel and it will flow a little better).

You might consider a run like this: Pump->CPU->Top Radiator->Back Radiator->Side Radiator->Top GPU->Bottom GPU->Reservoir
(The main reason I suggest this order is you wouldn't have to change as much of your loop as the first part is already in place this way... if you redo everything later I'd just run from the closest block/radiator to the next closest unless you're doing it for looks more than performance.)

That would make the runs cleaner and shorter and wouldn't change the cooling capacity at all - in fact, it might cool slightly better as there will now be a little less restriction and there will be much better airflow through the case to help cool anything that doesn't have a block on it.

That being said, welcome to watercooling! thumb.gif (And definitely just enjoy using your build before worrying about the next update... once you start, it gets very addictive!)

Thanks for the feedback DiGiCiDAL & yes i do feel the complexity & imperfection of the build (Which makes me struggle since it didn't really boost the performance to what i'm expecting) The 1st build was just based on common sense & gut feeling hoping it will work tongue.gif

Well it's working just not as expected currently redface.gif
So i was thinking if i redo the whole thing would it be better with below build?

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Ugh I want to go hardline so badly. Also, why can't there be any microcenters anywhere near me? I wish I could just run to the store and grab WC pumps and Mayhems. tongue.gif

Also what are the midplate pass-throughs actually called. Having a hard time locating them on PPC's page.

http://www.performance-pcs.com/bitspower-case-top-water-fill-through-hole-fitting-set-matte-black-finish.html

Case top water fill through.

@alienalvan Quite an intricate loop there.

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post #104116 of 104925
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Thanks for the feedback DiGiCiDAL & yes i do feel the complexity & imperfection of the build (Which makes me struggle since it didn't really boost the performance to what i'm expecting) The 1st build was just based on common sense & gut feeling hoping it will work tongue.gif

Well it's working just not as expected currently redface.gif
So i was thinking if i redo the whole thing would it be better with below build?


As the others have said there is little gain in placing components in a particular order. Even if all your heat producing parts are connected and then all the rads together the difference between the coolest and warmest point of the loop will most likely be only a couple of degrees C. Rather than the coolant being warm after blocks and cool after rads it is actually all warmer than the ambient air. How much warmer depends on rad airflow and cooling capacity.
Just connecting the loop so it is neat and simply goes component to next nearest component works great.

The loop layout design here is problematic at the GPU's. Having the outlet between the two blocks like that split flow unevenly and will limit the flow rate through the bottom block to probably 1/4 the flow the top block gets. For a parallel flow GPU block setup you need the outlet underneath and offset from the top inlet.

Otherwise new plan looks great
Edited by Ashcroft - 4/13/17 at 10:40am
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Having microcenter close is nice but there water cooler parts at my store are meh. A few blocks one or two rads and ek supremacy blocks. As for fittings there are 100 5mm ek extenders lol (not kidding) and maybe 2 90s no hardline fittings.
    
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It is a combo. Place the pump I. The housing of the reservoir tightened it Down and the gasket from the DDC pump is what suppose to seal it. Measured and checked the gasket. Seems fine. Here is a picture to the right of the wires it fried.

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My only thing I can think of is even though the I ring on my last pump looked ok it may have not seated properly by honestly that just a guess of what happened. Any ways 100 dollars later

I had a brand new pwm ddc pump res combo from EK die on me after a week or so.. opening it up it has white powder over all the wire connection points. I think the cables were too tight where they exit and that caused it to fail, they were definitely being pinched hard as it came assembled out of the box. I haven't bothered with an rma, I pinched the shorter tube from the res part for something else and I don't know where the box for it went anyways.

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Back week for DDC owners. One day I would like to get a d5 but I feel it's to big in my build for one.
    
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Having microcenter close is nice but there water cooler parts at my store are meh. A few blocks one or two rads and ek supremacy blocks. As for fittings there are 100 5mm ek extenders lol (not kidding) and maybe 2 90s no hardline fittings.
when I worked for the one in Duluth, GA I made sure they kept the WC section stocked and organized


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Asus PB248Q Coolermaster Quickfire TK Cherry MX Blues SS-660XP2 Corsair Vengeance C70 
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Gigabye XM300 Corsair MM200 XL Logitech z313 
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i7 5930k Evga Micro2 x99 EVGA GTX 1080 Superclocked Crucial Ballistix (White) 16GB DDR4 2400 
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Crucial Ballistix (Gray) 16GB DDR4 2400 Samsung 840 Pro 128GB (R0) Samsung 840 Pro 128GB (R0) Seagate Barracuda 2TB 
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Seagate Barracuda 2TB LG GP65NS60 EKWB Supremacy EVO Acetal-Copper EK D5 Vario 
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Aquacomputers Aqualis Pro Alphacool VPP655 XSPC EX360 EK ZMT Tubing 3/8 x 5/8 
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Corsair SP120 PWM (6) EKWB FC1080 GTX Nickel Acetal Silverstone 8 way PWM fan hub Windows 10 Education 64bit 
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Ubuntu 14.04LTS (Mate Mod) Asus VS238H **Coming Soon** DELL S2417DG CoolerMaster QuickFire TK  
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CoolerMaster v850 InWin 303 Black Zowie EC1-A PCGamingRace XXL 
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Pioneer vsx-520 **Atlanta Setup** Altec Lansing ACS22 **Nantucket Setup** SONY PULSE 7.1 Headset CECHYA-0080 Polk Monitor 40 
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Klipsch Powered 10" Sub CableMod Widebeam RGB LED kit (x2) CableMod White & Black Sleeved Cable extension kit 
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Phenom x6 1055T Gigabyte GA-78LMT-S2 MSI GTX 960 2GB 100 Millionth Edition Mushkin Silverline DDR3 1600 CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
WD Blue 250GB Corsair Force GS 128GB  Hitachi 160GB WD Green 320GB 
CoolingOSOSMonitor
AMD FX4350 Cooler Ubuntu 14.04 LTS Windows 10 Home Asus VS238H 
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Cooler Master Quickfire TK  Corsair HX620 Anidees AI7 Gigabyte XM300 
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ASRock Gaming Mat 
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Intel i7 6700k EVGA Z170 Classified K Asus GTX 970 Strix Crucial Ballistix Elite 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 2666  
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Crucial MX300 750GB Intel 600P 512GB m.2 NVMe Aquacomputer Kuplex Kryos Delrin Hardware Labs Nemesis 360 
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Corsair ML120 EK D5 Aquacomputers Aqualis Pro Windows 7 Professional 64bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Asus PB248Q Coolermaster Quickfire TK Cherry MX Blues SS-660XP2 Corsair Vengeance C70 
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Gigabye XM300 Corsair MM200 XL Logitech z313 
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