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Got it. So I guess that leaves me with my 2nd question:

2.) Any other cheaper pump/res rad mount alternatives that will give me the same up/down adjustment range as those Ethereal's? Or is there a low profile pump/res rad mount wherein it allows you to adjust the installation height of the pump/res?

Any ideas on this?

That look as good? Not in my opinion, but as far as the cheaper part of your question - sure. The default plastic bitspower clamps work exactly the same way (when coupled with fan adapter brackets) and they usually come free with their reservoirs - depending on where you buy it I suppose.

Not nearly as pretty as the singularity mounts, but still a clamp that you can adjust the height by 'sliding' the res up or down as needed. If you are planning on keeping everything completely suspended however, I'd recommend getting some silicone pads or tape to make it even more stable against vibration (the ethereals have pads for this purpose).

Until my last build all I ever used were the BP plastic clamps.


Don't have a pump/res combo in that one... because it's a dual DDC (which I think would be a little much maybe for it) but with a single pump/res I think it would work fine.
Edited by DiGiCiDAL - 4/27/17 at 12:01am
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So what would be a safe amount of PETG to buy for a first time bender? I'm going to be getting the 1000mm tubes and my case is a 900d. Got a midplate going in so the basement will be soft tubing. Would 4 be more than enough in your opinions?

This is the loop as it stands.


Edited by MURDoctrine - 4/27/17 at 2:31am
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That look as good? Not in my opinion, but as far as the cheaper part of your question - sure. The default plastic bitspower clamps work exactly the same way (when coupled with fan adapter brackets) and they usually come free with their reservoirs - depending on where you buy it I suppose.

Not nearly as pretty as the singularity mounts, but still a clamp that you can adjust the height by 'sliding' the res up or down as needed. If you are planning on keeping everything completely suspended however, I'd recommend getting some silicone pads or tape to make it even more stable against vibration (the ethereals have pads for this purpose).

Until my last build all I ever used were the BP plastic clamps.


Don't have a pump/res combo in that one... because it's a dual DDC (which I think would be a little much maybe for it) but with a single pump/res I think it would work fine.

 

They definitely don't look as good as the Ethereal's, that's a given :) You get what you pay for but hey, it works for first time builders, I guess.

 

Actually, my goal is to not use a pump/res combo. Instead, I want to use these:

 

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-xtop-revo-d5-pwm-plexi-incl-pump

https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-res-x3-150-lite

 

These two will be connected with the supplied M/M extender fitting (similar to your setup in the above pic) and want to do it exactly like this one:

 

 

He's using a Bitspower res there with the res to rad mounts that you recommended. Do I actually need to use mounts on both res and pump or would mounting the res to the rad enough to take on the weight load of the whole assembly (pump suspended)?

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He's using a Bitspower res there with the res to rad mounts that you recommended. Do I actually need to use mounts on both res and pump or would mounting the res to the rad enough to take on the weight load of the whole assembly (pump suspended)?

It should be plenty - they hold tight when cranked down... and especially if you're only going with a 150 res then I would expect it to be fine. I can't guarantee it of course, since I've not run an identical setup for proof, but considering people have just used two on 400 reservoirs before - I can't see any issues.
Edited by DiGiCiDAL - 4/27/17 at 4:29am
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So what would be a safe amount of PETG to buy for a first time bender? I'm going to be getting the 1000mm tubes and my case is a 900d. Got a midplate going in so the basement will be soft tubing. Would 4 be more than enough in your opinions?

This is the loop as it stands.


you need 4? and it is your first time? than buy 50% more. My 2 pennys
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you need 4? and it is your first time? than buy 50% more. My 2 pennys

I agree totally, although 4m of tubing sounds like plenty to me, but maybe get a couple of 500s to spare along with. I'd recommend you leave any complicated (long with multiple bends) until last... that way the simpler runs will give you a chance to practice. No matter how many tutorials you watch/read - it takes a few before you get a feel for how much heat is just enough.

It's definitely far less frustrating to have an extra piece of PETG sitting in the closet waiting for your next build (or upgrade to the current one) than to have all but one section completed and have to wait another piece to get shipped. biggrin.gif
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you need 4? and it is your first time? than buy 50% more. My 2 pennys
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I agree totally, although 4m of tubing sounds like plenty to me, but maybe get a couple of 500s to spare along with. I'd recommend you leave any complicated (long with multiple bends) until last... that way the simpler runs will give you a chance to practice. No matter how many tutorials you watch/read - it takes a few before you get a feel for how much heat is just enough.

It's definitely far less frustrating to have an extra piece of PETG sitting in the closet waiting for your next build (or upgrade to the current one) than to have all but one section completed and have to wait another piece to get shipped. biggrin.gif

Sweet that's what I needed to hear. Since PPC's was out of the 12mm that I wanted I saw titan rig on amazon had them in 4 packs. That's why I ask if that would probably be enough. I talked to PPC the other day and they said they were putting in an order for it so I might just wait till they get theirs in.
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Great, thanks for the effort! I would have a 360mm and a 280mm on my new setup so I would think that it would be better but then our ambient temps here (without AC) is already around 33-35C. So that's going to be producing slightly higher delta T's.

With those radiators you will have much better performance than my setup (smaller delta).
In summer my room temps are over 35> ºC because i don't have AC. The temps increase quite a bit. GPU for example is arround 47ºC redface.gif But still waaaaaaay better than the stock blower of the GTX 1070 FE
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For the price that tubing cost just always buy extra. One for mistakes two for having extra for the future if you change the loop up and 3 if you end up needing more it's a pain to pay the cost of the tubing just to ship and the wait time. I'm sure any one that has dos this for a while will tell you the same and trying to save a penny here and there specially on tubing always ends up costing you more
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