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worked it out.
Thanks for the advice. I'll have to try it later. It's just annoying but I expected as much. 2 1/2 meters of tubing down and I only have 1 tube to show for it. The only reason it worked was because it only needed one 90 degree bend. tongue.gif

I have struggled with bending PETG tubing as well. How to get an accurate measurement, how to get a good bend, and how to make it look pretty reasonable were all things I found challenging. I just bent some tubing last night that came out really well and the following trick helped out greatly. I used 14 gauge solid Cu residential electrical wiring (NM-B) to model my tube runs. You can see what I am talking about in the pic below. The top three runs are still the wire. This allows you to bend the cabling into just the right configuration, and then you take the wire and use it as a model for your actual tube bending. I am still learning and having fun, but this greatly improved the accuracy, layout, and appearance of my tubing. BTW, I highly recommend the monsoon bending kit or something similar if you aren't using one.



Final result:


Looks nice but you will have better flow with less 45° bends in your loop. You've got quite a few of them. I suggest making your runs as direct as possible and limit the number of 45s. thumb.gif

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Has anyone used the carbon fiber cable combs or the Aluminum billet cable combs from MNPCTECH on the cablemod MODMESH cables?

The mnpctech website says they are not compatible with any cablemod cables but I dont know how that could be the case cause the modmesh cables are thicker than the modflex cables. Cablemod says the modmesh are 3.1mm in diameter
and mnpctech says the cable combs will work with 3mm/4mm od cables so what am I missing here?


CableMod Modmesh sleeving is still very thin (The thickness from Modflex to Modmesh has only increased maybe by .3 or .4). CableMod uses the thinnest 18AWG wire possible, which prevents allot of Cable Combs from being used. Not 100% sure the thickness reported by CableMod is accurate.

I just did a quick test with Carbon Fiber combs I have from MNPTech.

MNPTech combs slides all over the place when placed on Modmesh cables. My created MDPC-X cables are allot thicker then CableMod ModMesh (I have a few Modmesh PSU cabes I used just to see if they would fit correctly on the sleeving).

Plus CableMod have stated in another thread saying their cables don't work with any 3rd cable combs. CableMod is working on thicker sleeving for their cables, It should be announced Soon-ish.

I can take some Photos if you need to see how they look.
Edited by Revan654 - 5/4/17 at 1:28pm
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Hey folks!
I'm actually thinking of a riser-card or -cable for the gpu in my darkbase pro 900 build but have never even seen such a thing from near. I feel like it's such a shame to hide the beauty of a gpu's waterblock underneath and the only thing to see is the backplate. Has anyone done that in that particular case and pictures of it to share? Any suggestions or opinions about that plan? Any advise or opinion much appreciated!thumb.gif
    
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I assume you mean 90 degree bends.
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Looks nice but you will have better flow with less 45° bends in your loop. You've got quite a few of them. I suggest making your runs as direct as possible and limit the number of 45s. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I assume you mean 90 degree bends. thumb.gif
I wonder how much it really matters. My pump seems to happily and quietly move the water through my system despite the bends, and out to the external rad. Temps are always pretty fantastic.
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Hur derp, yes indeed meant 90°. doh.gif

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I assume you mean 90 degree bends.
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Looks nice but you will have better flow with less 45° bends in your loop. You've got quite a few of them. I suggest making your runs as direct as possible and limit the number of 45s. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif

I assume you mean 90 degree bends. thumb.gif
I wonder how much it really matters. My pump seems to happily and quietly move the water through my system despite the bends, and out to the external rad. Temps are always pretty fantastic.

Pretty sure the bends won't reduce flow, that's just fittings.
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Pretty sure the bends won't reduce flow, that's just fittings.

Yes I think the flow will be fine. Here's an interesting read for those that have not seen it before.
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Pretty sure the bends won't reduce flow, that's just fittings.

No, Ceadderman is right. You will absolutely lose pressure as the fluid goes around a bend. It is how much pressure I am curious about. It looks like the math to figure out pressure loss includes variables like pipe diameter, bend radius, fluid density, and "slippery-ness" of the pipe. Based on my system performance, I would guess that the pressure drop is fairly minor.

Graphs and stuff here:
http://www.thermopedia.com/content/577/

Also, stealing 0ldchicken's avatar, it looks like the turbulence is pretty minor as the fluid slides around the 90 deg bend.


Edited by ir88ed - 5/4/17 at 4:32pm
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CableMod Modmesh sleeving is still very thin (The thickness from Modflex to Modmesh has only increased maybe by .3 or .4). CableMod uses the thinnest 18AWG wire possible, which prevents allot of Cable Combs from being used. Not 100% sure the thickness reported by CableMod is accurate.

I just did a quick test with Carbon Fiber combs I have from MNPTech.

MNPTech combs slides all over the place when placed on Modmesh cables. My created MDPC-X cables are allot thicker then CableMod ModMesh (I have a few Modmesh PSU cabes I used just to see if they would fit correctly on the sleeving).

Plus CableMod have stated in another thread saying their cables don't work with any 3rd cable combs. CableMod is working on thicker sleeving for their cables, It should be announced Soon-ish.

I can take some Photos if you need to see how they look.

Wait what the thinnest 18awg wire possible are you sure? So you just tested the MNPCTECH carbon fiber cable combs on cablemod's MODMESH cables & they dont fit? Ive been looking into them for over a week and just spent over $100 on a modmesh kit & just got confirmation today from mnpctech that the carbon fiber cable combs
do fit the modmesh cables. Please pictures would be great? Now im thinkin I should have waitied but I wasnt aware of any cables that werent super expensive for my EVGA 1300g2.

Also Ive been in contact with Cablemods and like I said their rep said the modmesh are 3.1mm in diameter. He knows I wanted thicker cables cause I told him how much I hate my aftermarket evga cable set, yet he mentioned nothing about upcoming cablemod kits that are thicker in diameter. Do you have a link on that info as well please?
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Well I got my bends done finally. Still not happy with one but it isn't leaking and I have my blitz part 2 running through the loop. I guess I just needed to sleep and reset as I had been going for hours on it yesterday. Thanks for all the advice guys. Mad respect to all the guys/gals with clean hard tubing runs.thumb.gif
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