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Been looking around a bit about this norprene. Getting very mixed reviews. Actually one guy on xtreme systems says it's complete crap as it left gunk all over his system, but everywhere else people get super duper experience. Some say they've had it for years in their system without any problems...

I have seen people post about using food grade tubing. it's brilliant to me lol.

Food Grade Norprene. It should be gunk/build up free.
Food Grade Tygon is some stuff that I have seen linked before on OCN and other fourms. It should also be gunk/buildup free.
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Figure one of you might be able to provide some insight smile.gif

Okay, so I've run into an interesting predicament with the whole pump/res/build/etc.

I'm stuck at a crossroads. Go with the helix res from FrozenQ or get the bay res with the helix in it. The bay res is definitely awesome and would be seen by more people, but I feel like the internal res would make the inside look epic.

There are caveats to each side:

Helix Res:
How to route from res to pump with 240 push/pull at bottom? (NZXT Switch 810 case, an example of a 240 installed here: http://www.overclockers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/DSCN2796-300x225.jpg )
I've always wondered how you fill the helix res. Do you need a fillport installed?

Bay Res:
Not as epic as helix inside.
Easier integration.

Also, another question. With 2 FC-7950 blocks, EX240, SR1 360, res, EK Max4 Extreme block, and EK Serial Bridge in the loop, should I go with the MCP355 for $35 shipped or a 655/D5 for $75 shipped (possibly less if I can find it)?

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DDC do better with high restrictive loops (ie, multiple blocks and angled fittings). The D5 is fully capable but in having tried both, I feel the DDC does a much better job and is a lot less noisier. Some say its the other way (in terms of noise). DDCs also tend to have more aftermarket goodies and these are less expensive than the D5 ones. Size is also a plus for the DDC; being smaller allows you to tuck in a many places (keep in mind they need some cooling as they do get a bit hot especially the DDC 3.25, mcp 35x).


As for the res, I had Alex's tube helix res it was the jewel in my build. The bay res, though nice and every one can immediately see it, I feel it doesn't do a loop justice. In terms of looks, the tube one is my choice, in terms of practicality, the bay res gets the nod.
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DDC do better with high restrictive loops (ie, multiple blocks and angled fittings). The D5 is fully capable but in having tried both, I feel the DDC does a much better job and is a lot less noisier. Some say its the other way (in terms of noise). DDCs also tend to have more aftermarket goodies and these are less expensive than the D5 ones. Size is also a plus for the DDC; being smaller allows you to tuck in a many places (keep in mind they need some cooling as they do get a bit hot especially the DDC 3.25, mcp 35x).
As for the res, I had Alex's tube helix res it was the jewel in my build. The bay res, though nice and every one can immediately see it, I feel it doesn't do a loop justice. In terms of looks, the tube one is my choice, in terms of practicality, the bay res gets the nod.

Some kind of water block attachment would be nifty. They have blocks for the Aquario 5, and they have the cute little heatsinks for teh 355/35x.
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Some kind of water block attachment would be nifty. They have blocks for the Aquario 5, and they have the cute little heatsinks for teh 355/35x.

In the DDC bay res (ie, XSPC DDC bay res) they will get hot. I had a slot blower fan aiding the pump. In the open, its not even warm tbh. I've heard the 35x gets really hot that swiftech developed a heatsink for it. Since it uses the same housing as the DDC 3.1 and 3.2 the heatsink is interchangeable. So, in a bay res, provide the DDC some cooling, in the open with adequate cooling, ti should be fine. The D5 I owned was in a bay res too (xspc) and it never got hot, which a plus for the D5 thumb.gif
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In the DDC bay res (ie, XSPC DDC bay res) they will get hot. I had a slot blower fan aiding the pump. In the open, its not even warm tbh. I've heard the 35x gets really hot that swiftech developed a heatsink for it. Since it uses the same housing as the DDC 3.1 and 3.2 the heatsink is interchangeable. So, in a bay res, provide the DDC some cooling, in the open with adequate cooling, ti should be fine. The D5 I owned was in a bay res too (xspc) and it never got hot, which a plus for the D5 thumb.gif

YEa. I'm pulling my hair out trying to decide a pump for my CPU loop....I just have to be so OCD about everydetail.... lol. Thanks for the info:)
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I think the DDC 3.2 (ie, MCP355) is the best compromise of the three common DDC pumps (DDC 3.1/MCP350, DD 3.2/mcp355, DDC 3.25/mcp35x). I've had a couple (both new and preowned) and I never had an issue with them other than a little heat when they are in a tight close area. The D5 is just too big and noisier (imo) compared to the DDC in my personal experience. I bought a preowned mcp 355 from the market that I'm using for my loop (res>pump>480>gpu x3>360 #1>cpu> mb#1>mb#2>360 #2).
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DDC do better with high restrictive loops (ie, multiple blocks and angled fittings). The D5 is fully capable but in having tried both, I feel the DDC does a much better job and is a lot less noisier. Some say its the other way (in terms of noise). DDCs also tend to have more aftermarket goodies and these are less expensive than the D5 ones. Size is also a plus for the DDC; being smaller allows you to tuck in a many places (keep in mind they need some cooling as they do get a bit hot especially the DDC 3.25, mcp 35x).
As for the res, I had Alex's tube helix res it was the jewel in my build. The bay res, though nice and every one can immediately see it, I feel it doesn't do a loop justice. In terms of looks, the tube one is my choice, in terms of practicality, the bay res gets the nod.
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In the DDC bay res (ie, XSPC DDC bay res) they will get hot. I had a slot blower fan aiding the pump. In the open, its not even warm tbh. I've heard the 35x gets really hot that swiftech developed a heatsink for it. Since it uses the same housing as the DDC 3.1 and 3.2 the heatsink is interchangeable. So, in a bay res, provide the DDC some cooling, in the open with adequate cooling, ti should be fine. The D5 I owned was in a bay res too (xspc) and it never got hot, which a plus for the D5 thumb.gif

You helped and made it worse tongue.gif Now I have no idea what to do tongue.gif

Thinking helix bay res with 655 just because it'll make my life way easier, but then again the helix inside looks way more epic. But... how often am I really going to look inside my case instead of the front? thinking.gif

*insert rage face*

EDIT: Just a note, noise doesn't particularly matter to me as long as its quieter than 30dB fans (even then, it still wouldn't bother me if its just a normal hum).
     
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You really have to bleed the D5 to quell the noise but I still found it to be far noisier than the DDC.

As for the reservoirs. There's something about the tube reservoirs that make them looks just oh so right in a properly setup case (albeit a decently sized one too). The way I see, the helix res, aka "Virus" reservoir, looks like a prop from the movie Resident Evil. It just makes it look cool. The right color combo and your good. Plus, you have the option to get a small 150mm, medium 250mm (what I had) to the insanely but oh, so awesome 400mm res. You can't have this options with the bay res, just colors frown.gif. Another reason to go with a tube res is that, you may never know if you will need those bays for something else. Like this:

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You really have to bleed the D5 to quell the noise but I still found it to be far noisier than the DDC.
As for the reservoirs. There's something about the tube reservoirs that make them looks just oh so right in a properly setup case (albeit a decently sized one too). The way I see, the helix res, aka "Virus" reservoir, looks like a prop from the movie Resident Evil. It just makes it look cool. The right color combo and your good. Plus, you have the option to get a small 150mm, medium 250mm (what I had) to the insanely but oh, so awesome 400mm res. You can't have this options with the bay res, just colors frown.gif. Another reason to go with a tube res is that, you may never know if you will need those bays for something else. Like this

Stupid ROG only part is stupid.... I wanna use it with my p8z68-v pro/gen3...... biggrin.gif
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