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4/22/12 at 7:30am
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Originally Posted by Aventadoor View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by wermad View Post

Some kind of electrician rolleyes.gif
You should be fine if the crimp is holding. No need to worry about "moisture". lol. Anyways, if you need the tool, there like $20.

Ye thats good to hear tongue.gif
Yes I know there is tools for it, but then I have to order from outside my country which aint good.
This guy actually linked me a crimping tool which costed over 2000USD tongue.gif
He said that u need a crimping tool which give enough force and pressure to get 100% seal so it wont rust!

LOL he sounds like an eBay or Craigslist scammer. tongue.gif

If you're that concerned, just put some electrical tape over the whole crimp casing and wire. Bam, no TOXIC AIR FILLED WITH POISON MOISTURE! biggrin.gif

On a completely unrelated note:

How do pumps install into dual bay reservoirs? I'm looking at the XSPC Dual Bay to support my D5 (which I already own and use in my current rig). How does this in fact mount into the reservoir? Does it get disassembled and the reservoir serves as a top or something? I'm confused by the whole process smile.gif
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4/22/12 at 9:53am
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What you view as a trivial difference does not mean that there isn't a huge difference for some. You claimed that there was no difference when the difference can be huge. Even 1C can hamper high overclocks. I worked with around 9 different loop orders before settling on the one I did since it allowed for the highest across the board overclocks. Even with a 2C delta at tdp and <1C delta when only loading the cpu every little bit counts when actually pushing chips. Just bc someone is just starting out doesn't mean they should be fed misinformation bc they most likely won't notice much, if any difference in their usage. People did that when I was starting out and it took a ton of time and nearly $2800 in wasted watercooling parts on my x58 build because people downplayed "trivial" matters. Many members have a misconception that the temp in a loop actually equalizes throughout. It doesn't. Throw 560 rads between components and the water temps within your loop will look like a rollercoaster. /rant
Sorry, just have seen similar comments too many times that nearly an entire forum believes.
I think people confuse 'equalize' with equilibrium in the loop, ie that the temps stabilize, though they're not necessarily the same across the loop. People try to get technical without being consistent and precise with their language and it gets misleading quickly.

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LOL he sounds like an eBay or Craigslist scammer. tongue.gif
If you're that concerned, just put some electrical tape over the whole crimp casing and wire. Bam, no TOXIC AIR FILLED WITH POISON MOISTURE! biggrin.gif
On a completely unrelated note:
How do pumps install into dual bay reservoirs? I'm looking at the XSPC Dual Bay to support my D5 (which I already own and use in my current rig). How does this in fact mount into the reservoir? Does it get disassembled and the reservoir serves as a top or something? I'm confused by the whole process smile.gif

Yes, you disassemble the pump (extremely easy, just unscrew the top) and then the 'can' with the motor and impeller gets mounted to the res which acts as the new top.


Edit: Question for you guys, I'm seeing ~55-60C depending on ambients as load on my 2600k (@4.5), do those temps sound high to you guys? I'm running 17x 120 of rads right now, with dual D5's on high, all fans are on low for silence and my MORA is running passively right now.
Edited by SaltwaterCooled - 4/22/12 at 9:56am
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4/22/12 at 10:01am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltwaterCooled View Post

Edit: Question for you guys, I'm seeing ~55-60C depending on ambients as load on my 2600k (@4.5), do those temps sound high to you guys? I'm running 17x 120 of rads right now, with dual D5's on high, all fans are on low for silence and my MORA is running passively right now.

You're running 17 radiators? Is there even any flow? I know you're running dual D5's... but if there's 17 radiators there's an absurd amount of restriction isn't it?
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4/22/12 at 10:21am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaltwaterCooled View Post

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Originally Posted by fat_italian_stallion View Post

What you view as a trivial difference does not mean that there isn't a huge difference for some. You claimed that there was no difference when the difference can be huge. Even 1C can hamper high overclocks. I worked with around 9 different loop orders before settling on the one I did since it allowed for the highest across the board overclocks. Even with a 2C delta at tdp and <1C delta when only loading the cpu every little bit counts when actually pushing chips. Just bc someone is just starting out doesn't mean they should be fed misinformation bc they most likely won't notice much, if any difference in their usage. People did that when I was starting out and it took a ton of time and nearly $2800 in wasted watercooling parts on my x58 build because people downplayed "trivial" matters. Many members have a misconception that the temp in a loop actually equalizes throughout. It doesn't. Throw 560 rads between components and the water temps within your loop will look like a rollercoaster. /rant
Sorry, just have seen similar comments too many times that nearly an entire forum believes.
I think people confuse 'equalize' with equilibrium in the loop, ie that the temps stabilize, though they're not necessarily the same across the loop. People try to get technical without being consistent and precise with their language and it gets misleading quickly.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DaClownie View Post

LOL he sounds like an eBay or Craigslist scammer. tongue.gif
If you're that concerned, just put some electrical tape over the whole crimp casing and wire. Bam, no TOXIC AIR FILLED WITH POISON MOISTURE! biggrin.gif
On a completely unrelated note:
How do pumps install into dual bay reservoirs? I'm looking at the XSPC Dual Bay to support my D5 (which I already own and use in my current rig). How does this in fact mount into the reservoir? Does it get disassembled and the reservoir serves as a top or something? I'm confused by the whole process smile.gif

Yes, you disassemble the pump (extremely easy, just unscrew the top) and then the 'can' with the motor and impeller gets mounted to the res which acts as the new top.


Edit: Question for you guys, I'm seeing ~55-60C depending on ambients as load on my 2600k (@4.5), do those temps sound high to you guys? I'm running 17x 120 of rads right now, with dual D5's on high, all fans are on low for silence and my MORA is running passively right now.

Seems a tad high even with some fans off and on low. I would consider reseating the block since that's higher than where my 3960x sits with only 4 fans on 40% and that thing is loving the voltage by comparison
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Might have already asked you about this block... But, what kinda temps are you getting with this Koolance block? I really like my Raystorm AMD block, outstanding temps with it.. just curious about the competition out there with this newer block.

Yeah here is actual temp: 23C Idle, a FULL [HEAVY] LOAD never gets above 34C for 6 hours without OC, I really pleasure it. However I will change the settings up when receive an extra 140/ or 180mm radiator.
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I have a minor problem!
So I bought some molex pins for the MCP655 pump since they where obviously bad mounted on the pump, so they came off when I was gonne change pump top..
However, I dont have the proper tools (those crimping tools) to mount the pins as they should. So I used a grip instead and the pins sit very good on and the pump works!
But an electriction told me that it wont work after a while bcuz it will not seal proporly when you just use a grip. So the wire will get rusty and stop working duo the damp which is in the air!

Is that true? The pump seem to work fine tho so ye

smileys107.gif Geezus I hate schiesters'. Tryin ta take advantage of someone who obviously have little to no knowledge, is the most heinous form of low class behavior in the Trades imho. PowerShakeFist.gif

Instead of makin sh!7 up, he should just been truthful and told you that your connection isn't good and that your pump will more than likely slip it's new pins. OR that your pump could run intermittently. I know more than the average joker and it even happens to me when I punch a hole in the pin and try using it anyway. I figured that out when my fan wouldn't run because the ground slipped. Rust is the least of your worries even if you live in a seafront environment. I'm sure you would notice a little thing like rust. The fact that he linked you to a $1000 tool really pisses me off though.

Do yourself a favor and get one of these...
Sturdy and Cost Effective... (Click to show)
495

and get yourself a bunch of pins cause the only way to learn how to use this thing consistently is to practice with it.

The next time(if there is one) you talk to that fool, tell him you didn't appreciate his game and then say nothing else whatsoever to that gent. Some people are too stupid and aren't worth much more of your time. This is one.

I'm so cheezed right now. Not in any economy is there an excuse for that. p_47.gif

If you need help finding the tool post your location in your sidebar and I'm sure someone near you would be happy to point you in the right direction. thumb.gif

~Ceadder smil3dbd4e4c2e742.gif
Edited by Ceadderman - 4/22/12 at 11:56am
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4/22/12 at 1:03pm
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You're running 17 radiators? Is there even any flow? I know you're running dual D5's... but if there's 17 radiators there's an absurd amount of restriction isn't it?
doh.gif I'm running a MORA3 (9x120), AC AMS Airplex 360, Swiftech MCR-QP 320, MCR-QP 220 (2x120)...
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Seems a tad high even with some fans off and on low. I would consider reseating the block since that's higher than where my 3960x sits with only 4 fans on 40% and that thing is loving the voltage by comparison

That was my thought, I also want to strip the block and see how it looks inside. I have a copper/acetal version so no flaking concerns, but who knows there could be something in there. I'm curious to know what my water temp is, but I suspect that the block isn't working up to potential. It's got super high flow which the Supremes love and cool water, so I'm going to try mounting it again. I'm also thinking about experimenting with milling a few thousandths off the bottom to make it even thinner, I need to do some homework on how thick it is to start with...
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4/22/12 at 2:02pm
Did some weekend upgrades on my sig system. Newegg had a sale on RAM so I got another 16GB of G.Skill RipJaws Z 2133 quad chan to bring my system up to 32GB so I can install some VMs on ramdisk. I also wanted to get some light in my system since it's pretty dark and there isn't much point in having a window if you can't see the guts smile.gif so I picked up a pair of these UV Lamptron Inverterless Cathode Spectral Bar from FrozenCPU. I don't really like too much light shining in my eyes and I saw from the reviews that these are pretty dim, so I thought I'd give it a shot since they were $19. I also wanted to take my system apart and check for any loose fittings, blow it out, drain the loop and replace the water, and remove the Asus Xonar STX card since I'm using external USB DACs now.


Delicious quad channel RAM and the bars:

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RAM Installed, Xonar removed:

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Lights installed, loop drained and refilled:

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And the finished product with the case all buttoned back up:



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And a bonus IntelBurnTest to show it's still more go than show smile.gif

Ambient was 22C. According to coretemp the power draw was a max of 212 watts... The VRMs got pretty hot.

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Got 3 of the 4 Gentle Typhoon AP-15 fans I ordered today. Using 3 GT fans in place of 4 NZXT FN-120RB fans temps have dropped 1-2 degrees. Should get even better once the last fan arrives. wheee.gif
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That's a lot of money just for 1-2 degree difference in temps. That fourth fan better pick up the slack for the other 3. mellowsmiley.gif
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i loved my typhoons but i went out and tried these coolermaster Excalibur fans

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coolermaster Excalibur fans

thay will run as low as 260rpm yes and i got a shock when thay went up to 2200rpm


speed rated for 600rpm-2000rpm

i thing when u have them at 800rpm thay are quieter u don't evan hear a friction noise

and for cleaning just pull on the fan blades and thay just pop right out of the fan cage
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4/22/12 at 3:49pm
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That's a lot of money just for 1-2 degree difference in temps. That fourth fan better pick up the slack for the other 3. mellowsmiley.gif
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It does show that 3 GT fans outperform 4 NZXT FN fans. I had the cash to spend so I went for it, worth it to me. biggrin.gif
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