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post #28502 of 106082
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Heat wall is temp wise. You'll hit volts/frequency that just make the temps skyrocket no matter what you do.

but there is still a difference between Air and water right? (also, evn if the temps skyrocket, removing IHS and replacing the tim shaves off ~10C no matter what no?)

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I'd say that's accurate. It can cause major damage to your system, just like heroin! Proc's OD'ing on volts at a young age is always such a sad thing. tongue.gif
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but there is still a difference between Air and water right? (also, evn if the temps skyrocket, removing IHS and replacing the tim shaves off ~10C no matter what no?)
i must say that we all have a serious problem here tongue.gif
So you'll run at 95C instead of 115C when you get there. And that's when the wall has only been *slightly* crossed. Keep going and it'll go higher at a very fast rate.

This is why people who want to get into that 5.0GHz range are sticking with Sandy. You'll see tons of posts of people wanting to trade 3770Ks for 2600/2700Ks. Or at least, there were for a long while.
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Since we're waxing philosophical on water cooling. It occurred to me that in the watercooling pursuit, never has the law of diminishing returns been in fuller effect. biggrin.gif

In otherwords, for the money I've spent building/rebuilding my loop I could have had two computers running at 4.5 instead of one running at 5.0. thumb.gif
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post #28505 of 106082
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Since we're waxing philosophical on water cooling. It occurred to me that in the watercooling pursuit, never has the law of diminishing returns been in fuller effect. biggrin.gif
In otherwords, for the money I've spent building/rebuilding my loop I could have had two computers running at 4.5 instead of one running at 5.0. thumb.gif
So true.

I am really really glad I do have a secondary gaming rig to use while I tear down my main rig for loop rebuilding. In that process right now, and I don't feel rushed at all. I can just take my time getting everything the way I want it.
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post #28506 of 106082
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but there is still a difference between Air and water right? (also, evn if the temps skyrocket, removing IHS and replacing the tim shaves off ~10C no matter what no?)
According to IHS Removals, How to do it, Should I do it, and the Facts! (here at OCN), temps between removed soldered IHS and keeping the soldered IHS in-place are under 4°. I would say It's not worth it unless you have some alien heat-warping material. Your Mileage May Vary.
Oh, and the difference between air and water differs largely depending on the quality of the cooling itself. I heard of air coolers quieter than liquid, at same temps, and I heard of hotter processors under water. But generally speaking, from what I gathered, as soon as you move from stock cooling to liquid, you get around 10 to 20° for sure. My personal experience? My only air experience at 4.0GHz on my X6 was 67°C Idle. I have *check temps* 22°C right now with a simple Corsair Hydro H80
Edited by Tarnix - 10/1/12 at 3:07pm
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post #28507 of 106082
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So you'll run at 95C instead of 115C when you get there. And that's when the wall has only been *slightly* crossed. Keep going and it'll go higher at a very fast rate.
This is why people who want to get into that 5.0GHz range are sticking with Sandy. You'll see tons of posts of people wanting to trade 3770Ks for 2600/2700Ks. Or at least, there were for a long while.

is it only on the WC part or the IHS removal part? (but anyway, even if there is a wall, WC is quieter and pretier biggrin.gif )
i admit that i too wanted to go sandy to reach the 5 ghz mark, but i dropped the idea quickly since i can live without +400 mhz and with PCI-E 3. (though, if i'll find second hand 2600k/2700k for a great price i might buy it in addition, you know because its OverKill.net tongue.gif )
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Since we're waxing philosophical on water cooling. It occurred to me that in the watercooling pursuit, never has the law of diminishing returns been in fuller effect. biggrin.gif
In otherwords, for the money I've spent building/rebuilding my loop I could have had two computers running at 4.5 instead of one running at 5.0. thumb.gif
thats a scary statistic, but then again its OverKill.net
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According to IHS Removals, How to do it, Should I do it, and the Facts! (here at OCN), temps between removed soldered IHS and keeping the soldered IHS in-place are under 4°. I would say It's not worth it unless you have some alien heat-warping material. Your Mileage May Vary.
but on Ivy it doesn't have soldered IHS, but a cheap TIM and most say the diff is ~10C
(but the real debate for me is either to remove IHS or get the intel Overclocking insurance thingy. any thoughts?)
Edited by RKTGX95 - 10/1/12 at 3:10pm
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but on Ivy it doesn't have soldered IHS, but a cheap TIM and most say the diff is ~10C
Oh, Sweeet. well yeah, if I was to remove the IHS i'd put some seriously badass TIM there.
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A 3770K at 4.5 is not much different than my 2700K at 4.5....and although my cards are reference, they still overclock great and boost to almost 1300MHz....so with those clocks I almost hit 16K. With your setup being almost the same, weird that you are seeing such a higher score. wth.gif
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And overclocking would be the heroin of the pc usage?

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Well then I must confess, I'm a crackhead redface.gif

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we're all brother and sisters united in the giant buzz of our dependance... Peace... biggrin.gif


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You guys made my day.

Even better, wife just texted me, 2nd gpu just got dropped off wheee.gif
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