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Thx guys smile.gif glad you like what I did with the new scout, the case is real nice and capable of watercooling with some minor mods.
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@koniu777 Please tell me that plastic "handle" is perfectly centered with the fan... Otherwise I would chop it off... Blocking a fan is a no-no for me.

wheee.gif I am ordering my MSI Bing Bang Z77 Mpower mobo this month
Still far from water-cooling, but at least it's going somewhere biggrin.gif Gotta hate slow Paypal transfers w/o credit card and no job... Let's see... If I save a minimum of 50$ per month for my next build... I should have it done near Xmas 2013 >.>

At least I'm going to save NCIX shipping costs biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by Tarnix View Post

@koniu777 Please tell me that plastic "handle" is perfectly centered with the fan... Otherwise I would chop it off... Blocking a fan is a no-no for me.
wheee.gif I am ordering my MSI Bing Bang Z77 Mpower mobo this month
Still far from water-cooling, but at least it's going somewhere biggrin.gif Gotta hate slow Paypal transfers w/o credit card and no job... Let's see... If I save a minimum of 50$ per month for my next build... I should have it done near Xmas 2013 >.>
At least I'm going to save NCIX shipping costs biggrin.gif

the handle is in the center of the fan, right where the bearing is, but it's also and inch higher then the fan so its not blocking any airflow
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Edited by carrotguy - 10/3/12 at 10:15pm
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Here goes nothing. What do you guys think of it? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




Sharply Dressed.. I like.. thumb.gif
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Hello, OCN people! My name is Carrotguy, as I own Carrot Computing, which is a small town PC repair company, which is not trying to sell to you, just explaining my name smile.gifWarning: LONG! (Click to show)
I have skimmed almost this entire LC forum and would now like to begin participating myself. With that being said, Im just gonna dive right in with what Ive done, and so I have built a little log for you. Other than that, I am a fellow geek, and I am looking forward to discussing LC with you guys in the near future.
Lian Li TU200 CPU/GPU Liquid Cooled Build
Custom Build Name: Doxbox (The computer doctors box)
Key Features: A small and portable, work on the outside, gamer and wow on the inside, with external rad option and internal/external modular liquid connections, build.
Personal Notes: Before I even begin, I want to mention the number one thing I have learned. This gets expensive!! Be warned all noobs!! 
I built/am building (started mid September ETC mid October) this computer as a portable work rig, and wanted it to be my main rig also. I wanted the Lian Li TU200 as it was the smallest full featured case I could find,, and the build in handle is great.
One thing I had to have in a work rig, was a 2.5 and 3.5 hotswap external bay, which really complicated my decision to go liquid. But, so would have the handle. Luckily, the newer components I chose are very low TDP compared to their former counterparts,, the CPU at 77W, and the GPU at <200W,, so I felt as though I could get away with two smallish rads, a 1x140mm thick and a 1x120mm slim rad, both from alphacool. I learned from martins liquid labs that stacking rads (making them extra thick) had next to no effect after around 80mm, in addition to more fans needed, so I did not consider stacking. I can already see, from what I have as my projected finished build, that I may be able to fit a 3rd rad under the gpu as well, but I will come back to that at a later date. I have already changed my design since I began this project, like deciding to add a 2nd rad and modding the rear and may change more as I go along. One thing I lol at now, is how heavy it will be.
I also wanted the Liquid cooling to be modular. At least 1 of every two sides of tubing will have a Quick Disconnect set on it so I can remove and replace individual parts and tubing, without having to dismantle. The whole dismantling to repair is what has really held me off from Liquid Cooling for so long, so this is a must for me. Being my first time, surely I will need to redo things right? In the future I want to see how cheap I can liquid cool, but I really wanted this to be a special and unique build.
Personal Info: I have built near 500 computers, but never a liquid build before. (1 with the Zalman Ultimate allinone closed loop, but that’s not custom.) I feel very confident in building PC’s, but have very little modding experience and am here to work on that. That being said, I like to think I learn well from others online (even if I rarely participate back) and want to make this log, from a beginners perspective, for other beginners, and to take opinions from the experienced and learn how to do better the next time. I can already tell you, half way into modding, that I have learned a lot, and would have already changed a few things, and recommend that others just go ahead and start somewhere, cause the missing pieces will immediately start falling together and you will have a better understanding.
Components:
Main System
Case: Lian Li TU200
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe
CPU: Intel i7 3770k
GPU: Gigabyte 670 GTX 2GB Windforce
RAM: Currently G.Skill 2x4GB @2133, but I plan to go G.Skill or Geil 2x8GB @2400
PSU: Silverstone ST45SF-G 450W SFX modular PSU
Internal HDDs: 256GB Samsung 830 SSD (2.5”x7mm), 2TB 3.5” HDD
Bay Devices: Dual hotswap 2.5 and 3.5 with USB 3.0 ports bay device, Lamptron 30W 4 fan and 4 temp controller.
Switches: Rear On/Off Bulgin switch, Rear Fan LED On/Off Bulgin Switch.
Cooling Connections: External Quick Disconnect Modular Liquid Cooling Connection.
Other: Cigarette/DC lighter and plug. Custom GPU Support. Sound Dampening material, MNPC Micro ATX Case feet. Black Cable Braiding.
Notes 1: No Ram Height Restriction, this 670 has a 680 PCB requiring a 680 Block, PSU mounted internally. No Reset Switch. (Do I need one?) The PSU is a smaller SFX form factor and fully modular and basically the best at its size. Adding a secondary PicoPSU is always an option if necessary.
Notes 2: Without the external rad, I have potential for overheating and overclocking is doubtful, and playing games at default clocks will probably last an hour before too much heat, but,,, I figure, worst come to worst, this is great build with a i7 I could underclock and a 670 I could underclock with negligible performance differences and last longer. When Im at home with the external rad (later date), I can go full blast.
Notes 3: I may add internal lighting and a reservoir.
Notes 4: Ill get this braiding done eventually.

Cooling Parts:
Pump and CPU block: Swiftech Apogee II 1155 block with MCP35x? pump. (I forget exact one, will correct later)
GPU Block: Heatkiller 680 Black Nickel with matching Backplate (Fit like a glove)
Radiators: Alphacool 1x140 UT60 and 1x120 ST30
Fans: Currently, 1x120 and 1x140 BitSpectre Pro white leds and 1 Scythe 120 slim fan.
Temp Sensors: 4 G1/4 mf inline sensors at exits of CPU, GPU, 120Rad and the 140Rad.
Other: 4-6 sets of Koolance Quick Disconnects, modular connections. Filport. ½” Tygon braided reinforced tubing. A whole mess (actual quantity) of 45 and 90 rotary adapters, and mm ff adapters.
Notes 1: In adding a second, well placed rad, I was required to seriously begin modding the case. I decided to mount a small PSU up top and make a custom rear backplate. I have never modded before, and though I might of done it completely by myself now that I have a feel for it, I heard of emachineshop.com and ordered a custom aluminum backplate and internal mounting brackets, allowing me to mount and support the PSU above the MB, support the front fan controller, and mount a fan/rad in addition to switches, an external pci opening and support and PSU plug socket. More notes on that below.
Notes 2: Air flow currently comes in through the bottom of the case and out the front and rear radiators, but perhaps it will end up going out of the bottom, rear and front and coming in through the top with added vent ports. Will need to consider the weight and if I would like to weaken the handles surrounding support with vent holes.
Notes 3: I will probably add and change fans a little. The Scythe was perfect fit prior to the GPU block, but now I could use a larger or thicker fan, perhaps a matching 120 or 140, but am still thinking about what to do with the extra space below the GPU.
Notes 4: I intended to have an internal shutoff valve and extra line H setup with valve in the - to the external rads, so that all I would have to do is plug in the external rad and close the valve, and it would addin the extra cooling and flow accordingly, and unplug and open the valve to change it back to standalone. I now have to wait till I get the bracket in to determine this, and may just end up having extra modular tube lines, that I would replace as needed for external radiator.

Other Notes: The GPU with fitted backplate and block is now Heavy! I felt necessary to add bottom support since the GPU is on its side and supported only by the PCI bracket.
Mods Required:
Front: Dremelled extra 5.25 slim bay for fan controller and removed front On/off, Reset switches. (still working on this)
Top: Added 1” hole for Filport.
External Sides: None
Internal Sides: Sound Dampening Material.
Bottom: Drilled Holes for custom GPU support and will add for fan when I finalize.
Rear: Custom Bracket from emachineshop
Inside: Added custom support brackets, removed HDD cage,
Notes 1: Added/ing Sound Dampening Material anywhere I can.
Mod Tools used:
Dremel with sanding and metal cutting bits, Power Drill with drill bits for screw holes and hole saw bits for larger holes. Jigsaw for larger straight cuts. Heatgun for shrinkwrap. Work Bench and Safety Goggles, in addition to the regular PC tools.
Notes: I can always use Rubber C-Strips if my lines aren’t pretty.
Custom Bracket Notes: emachineshop
This isn’t an ad, but it was a cool experience, and could be worthwhile to some, so I want to give emachineshop.com a shoutout. I basically spent $100 and CAD drew a design with their software (tech savvy people will figure it out) and made a backplate that I will mount on a hole I will cut in the back of my case. I ordered it last week and will receive it mid October. This is a really cool way to get something custom, just right… if you got the money. It does get affordable with quantity so great for a small business, not perfect for an individual. This did limit my design as I found each metal bend added about $50 on 1 qty, so I decided to make parts I could bend myself. Also, getting a real finishing, like with a black powdercoat or a brushing added roughly $70 so I decided that I could do that on my own for less, but I am just guessing I have not worked on the paint/dye yet. There are several other things you could do special but they all added cost and I decided $100 was the limit. Here is a pic of what I have ordered with a pic of the case below it. (my case is black though) It is 1.6mm thick unfinished aluminum and cost just under $100 with shipping. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The backplate with (from top left) a power socket hole, a cig lighter hole, an On/Off switch hole, a fan LED switch hole and a PCI opening. (intended for external rad mount, but I have found I may have a problem which I will confirm mid October.) That is a 120mm fan hole. The two identical pieces to the upper right of the main bracket is for the front fan controller so that it can hang from the bay device above it. Any skinny piece of metal on remaining parts is intended to be bent at a 90 degree angle. The bigger side piece will hold the PSU above the motherboard internally and, with bends in place, will screw to the back of the internal bay device support and to the two screw holes placed just below the PSU socket hole on the main bracket. The two pieces to the left will screw into the TBD screw holes on each side of the bigger side piece to hold the PSU. 1 of the two remaining pieces will hold the PSU from the front or rear. The last piece will be a PCI support for the additional PCI device so it can screw in like normal. I will be adding Sound material to the PSU brackets. The PSU should have the option of being loose or screwed in and be stable, without voiding warranty. If loose is stable, that’s probably what I will do, it will be tight up there and sound foam will pad it.
I now know I may should have swapped the locations of the switches and the PCI bracket, or just made two 20mm holes for the rad QD outlets, but I will know soon enough. Cant believe I made a sloppy decision on that part, but I was tired and had redesigned it for days. If all else fails I will cut my own piece of medal, now that I have gained confidence from modding the front. So, while I praise emachineshop, if you, the individual, ever plan to do this again, go ahead and buy the tools and do it yourself, it will be worth it. If you need perfection,, and have money, go there.
If everything goes right for me though, this may end up being perfection for under $150, as I can sand it or finish it on my own Im sure, round the edges, place a few additional holes, as well as add black finishing of sorts.
This is also all 2D though, 3D would have been more.
Here are some pics of everything, minus the custom backplate and a lot of the rotary adapters, that I have so far. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The front of the case with modded out space for extra 5.25 bay. A little scratching I will have to cover up, but I will come up with that solution anyways for my backplate. It also turns out I will need to go down about 2 or 3 more mm in to the grill, or up, as both devices barely don’t fit yet. But I have to figure that out and will soon enough. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Added in GPU supports,, need addtl nuts on left one. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
MB with block, pump and ram, PSU, Samsung 830 SSD, Scythe 120 slim fan and cig lighter. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
670 with 680 block and Backplate. Backplate is identical length. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Front bay controllers. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Most of the QD’s a few rotarys and some tubing.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
These pics show a mostly completed build minus the fittings, tubings and backplates, and is how I have had the PC for a while now while determining fittings needed and dimensions. As you can see, the 60mm rad and 25mm fan are a glove fit with this GPU. GPU must go in last lol. What to do (besides mount a fan) with all the extra space below? I can put my two internal hdds seemingly anywhere. Also, the back fan and rad will be in reverse positions, with the fan on the back of the case and the rad on it,, like the front rad and fan are.
Would like to change: There are currently 4 USB3.0 ports on the front, with 2 of them being internally wired to 2.0. There is also an extra SATA or eSATA port in the same bottom front location. I would like to make them functional via a usb 3.0 internal hub and sata device or remove and replace that area altogether. I would like it to work correctly if it is on there. I have no extra SATA ports or internal USB 3.0 ports available.
Please comment on my project and give opinions and advice and support me while I near the final stages of this (to me) monster of a project.
Thanks and I look forward talking to you.
CG
Hello CarrotGuy and welcome to OCN!
As much as I like seeing a new face around, this post seems a bit huge for this thread. Far from me the desire to put you down, but rather I'd like to suggest you to post your build log in the Case Mods Work Logs section, where we generally put them. Your finished pictures are however more than welcome here, or at least "intermediate usable state" if you are working on a non-finished build.

Sorry if it comes off a bit snotty, that's not the intention.

EDIT: Looking good!
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Thought I would just upload some photo's of what I am working on.

This is what my CM690 II Advanced use to look like:


So I got bored and wanted to water cool my GPU's. So several hundred of dollars later I get to do that.

I also decided to make a side window and add a new Koolance pmp-500 pump, a alphcool res. and a ex240 rad.

Along with painting a new scheme, of Siver, Yellow and Blue.

But in the mean time I have been using this setup:



I plan to have my build finished on this weekend or early next week. wheee.gif
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PTCB!!! You amazed me with your build! sleek looking man! thumb.gif
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PTCB!!! You amazed me with your build! sleek looking man! thumb.gif

Cheers, bro. Compared to your Blackbox, my rig pales in comparison. Nice tubing routing you got there in your rig, I'll do the same with mine. smile.gif
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How can a half finished build with no GPU even get 15 votes in that comp??
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