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While I can certainly understand trying to get away with whatever you can, I wouldn't condone or openly admit to doing that sort of thing here on OCN. It's definitely not Amazon's fault you got water on the board....
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You have someone that can lend you an x79 mb or lga2011 cpu to test?
Unfortunately not. Most of my friends can't affordhigh end. They're all using FX 4100's and HD 6850's

my friends all have pre-built. Consider yourself lucky
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I am actually having trouble typing this as I've spent the day tubing my loop (hmm...why does that sound weird? lol), and I only use Bitspower and Monsoon; actually, I do have a few Swiftech Lok-Seal Fittings and XSPC Compressions&Extensions although the XSPC have not been needed yet. More specifically, in my loop there are: Bitspower Angled Rotary Compressions (45deg Dual-Rotary and 90deg Triple-Rotary) and Angled Rotary Adapters (45deg Single, 90deg Single, 90deg Dual), Male-Male Rotary Couplers, "No-Twist" Rotary Extensions, Ball Valve Stop Fitting, Bulkhead Fill-Port G1/4-inner thread and a few others; Monsoon 1/2x3/4 Matte Black compression fittings and a few Black Chrome comps; Swiftech Matte-Black 15mm Extension Fittings, "T"-block Fitting, "X"-block Fitting, and maybe some that I forget.
I still have, left over, quite a bit... At least 25-30 different misc fittings; thinking of using some of the Swiftech Lok-Seal Variable-Length SLI/CFX fittings to eliminate the need for tubing in one or two areas with very short runs...


Anyway, as far as "most tightly-gripping compression fittings", I'd rank them as:
BEST: Bitspower
2nd Place: XSPC
3rd Place: Monsoon

The Monsoon fittings are also a HUGE PITA to get the threads (the compression onto the barb) to line-up with the tubing in place; I've just about shot a few of them out of frustration!


The new PrimoFlex Advanced LRT tubing does seem to be a bit more difficult to get over the fittings' barbs than the PRO LRT, Duralene, MasterKleer, or XSPC tubing. In fact, it was so difficult at first that I thought I'd gotten the wrong size, like the box had been mislabeled or something! Finally was able to get it over a Bitspower 45deg rotary comp's barb, and have been putting the tubing onto the fittings' barbs for 30-60min (letting it sit) to stretch it out enough to make it possible to get it on in the tighter confines of a case.

I have been having a b@#ch of a time with one particular area of my loop (from the EK Multioption X2 150 res top outlet to the XSPC Single Bay Res inlet), and have probably 6-7 pieces of tubing that I cut that were JUST the wrong size by a few millimeters (ARGH!). And, of course, the Monsoon fittings won't tighten because the threads won't catch!


Anyway, during my frustration I wanted to see just how strong the different fittings were, and the Bitspower are literally IMPOSSIBLE to pull the tubing out of without ripping it. Same with the XSPC. The Monsoon will hold on quite well, but given enough force, the tubing WILL come out.
   
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If you decide to sell all those misc. 1/2 x 3/4 fittings, let me know ph34r-smiley.gif
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While I can certainly understand trying to get away with whatever you can, I wouldn't condone or openly admit to doing that sort of thing here on OCN. It's definitely not Amazon's fault you got water on the board....

^This.

It's really sad to see people doing that, it's your mistake on frying the board, don't blame it on it being DoA.. doh.gif
    
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I am actually having trouble typing this as I've spent the day tubing my loop (hmm...why does that sound weird? lol), and I only use Bitspower and Monsoon; actually, I do have a few Swiftech Lok-Seal Fittings and XSPC Compressions&Extensions although the XSPC have not been needed yet. More specifically, in my loop there are: Bitspower Angled Rotary Compressions (45deg Dual-Rotary and 90deg Triple-Rotary) and Angled Rotary Adapters (45deg Single, 90deg Single, 90deg Dual), Male-Male Rotary Couplers, "No-Twist" Rotary Extensions, Ball Valve Stop Fitting, Bulkhead Fill-Port G1/4-inner thread and a few others; Monsoon 1/2x3/4 Matte Black compression fittings and a few Black Chrome comps; Swiftech Matte-Black 15mm Extension Fittings, "T"-block Fitting, "X"-block Fitting, and maybe some that I forget.
I still have, left over, quite a bit... At least 25-30 different misc fittings; thinking of using some of the Swiftech Lok-Seal Variable-Length SLI/CFX fittings to eliminate the need for tubing in one or two areas with very short runs...


Anyway, as far as "most tightly-gripping compression fittings", I'd rank them as:
BEST: Bitspower
2nd Place: XSPC
3rd Place: Monsoon

The Monsoon fittings are also a HUGE PITA to get the threads (the compression onto the barb) to line-up with the tubing in place; I've just about shot a few of them out of frustration!


The new PrimoFlex Advanced LRT tubing does seem to be a bit more difficult to get over the fittings' barbs than the PRO LRT, Duralene, MasterKleer, or XSPC tubing. In fact, it was so difficult at first that I thought I'd gotten the wrong size, like the box had been mislabeled or something! Finally was able to get it over a Bitspower 45deg rotary comp's barb, and have been putting the tubing onto the fittings' barbs for 30-60min (letting it sit) to stretch it out enough to make it possible to get it on in the tighter confines of a case.

I have been having a b@#ch of a time with one particular area of my loop (from the EK Multioption X2 150 res top outlet to the XSPC Single Bay Res inlet), and have probably 6-7 pieces of tubing that I cut that were JUST the wrong size by a few millimeters (ARGH!). And, of course, the Monsoon fittings won't tighten because the threads won't catch!


Anyway, during my frustration I wanted to see just how strong the different fittings were, and the Bitspower are literally IMPOSSIBLE to pull the tubing out of without ripping it. Same with the XSPC. The Monsoon will hold on quite well, but given enough force, the tubing WILL come out.

omg i chewed my thumbs up trying to close and thread my bitspower fittings on my PrimoFlex Advanced LRT tubing!!
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post #36957 of 106081
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omg i chewed my thumbs up trying to close and thread my bitspower fittings on my PrimoFlex Advanced LRT tubing!!

Same tubing and fittings the secret lol...

    
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Same tubing and fittings the secret lol...


No thanks, don't want scratches all over my fittings.

I prefer some spanking new clean Gloves (Hyflex)

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post #36959 of 106081
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Originally Posted by LayerCakes View Post

Well this board and cpu are both within their 30 day return window still tongue.gif

Doesn't hurt. At worst, they'll just say no smile.gif
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

While I can certainly understand trying to get away with whatever you can, I wouldn't condone or openly admit to doing that sort of thing here on OCN. It's definitely not Amazon's fault you got water on the board....


Keep in mind some retailers (most notably, newegg) will flat out deny you after they inspect it and determine a user created problem. Even still, someone's honest mistake can still be addressed by a retailer who would rather please the customer or help them as best as possible. When there's a blatant and obvious mistake, then its up to your moral compass (and intelligent capacity) whether or not to pursue even if there's a chance you may or may not get help. Newegg used to take in rma even if was a user created error but then they got really tight on this and pretty much have stopped. I understand them; they're a small company and it could hurt them. But large retailers and companies like Amazon and Corsair have the capacity to go above and beyond (at their discretion) to help the customer even if the customer created the problem. I chopped up my 800D doors and I asked for replacements. Corsair sent them for free smile.gif

If you don't agree with it, just don't get involved. I'm sure all of us have attempted to warrant a product that was defectively caused by the ourselves. How many "failed because of oc" threads have appeared and most all will respond to rma it? Should we stop suggesting this because your judgement is no aligned with others (not necessarily correct or wrong)?
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^This.

It's really sad to see people doing that, it's your mistake on frying the board, don't blame it on it being DoA.. doh.gif

I do agree with part of your argument (bold) but how is it sad for someone to exercise their right to warranty even if they caused the mistake? Amazon will determine whether or not to provide help. I would just say it simply stopped working (Amazon has a drop down selector and "defective" is one of them). I've done the rma process with amazon with products that have arrived defective and became defective.




In the end, I think LayerCakes may have chosen the inappropriate words but her intentions are good and we should help her out as best as possible and not make her day worse thumb.gif
Edited by wermad - 2/6/13 at 5:56pm
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Sell them biggrin.gif

I sold them quickly. Another member had the same issues I did and promptly sold them too. Its not worth the hassle imho.

Alphacool is my first choice. Not too expensive and not cheaply made.

I was thinking of just wrapping over the barb with electrical tape to make it mnore snug with the tubing. Apparently it worked for someone.
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