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post #37741 of 106451
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i am not an expert but i think you will do better in push then in pull. and the performance increase of having a monsta in push/pull rather then just push is minuscule is what i've read... these extra think rads are made for quite performance so they have less FPI so that more air can pass through them easier with a single set

according to martin, push is better than pull. pull with a shroud is even better.
http://martinsliquidlab.petrastech.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html
Push Vs Pull - This depends on fan speed/power. The high speed fans at 2000RPM with a 38mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a push condition. The slow speed fans with 1350RPM with a 25mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a pull condition. I would estimate that performance line is likely to cross in the 1500-1700RPM range where they are equal. So.... slow speed = pull, high speed = push, medium speed = it doesn't really matter.
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according to martin, push is better than pull. pull with a shroud is even better.
http://martinsliquidlab.petrastech.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html
Push Vs Pull - This depends on fan speed/power. The high speed fans at 2000RPM with a 38mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a push condition. The slow speed fans with 1350RPM with a 25mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a pull condition. I would estimate that performance line is likely to cross in the 1500-1700RPM range where they are equal. So.... slow speed = pull, high speed = push, medium speed = it doesn't really matter.

The OCCOOL Monsta Rads that are 80mm thick have built in shroud in the design. It's just a small open area between the fan and the radiator. fins. About 5 or 6 mm. Not much but I think that small space helps create a shroud like effect.
Edited by SonDa5 - 2/17/13 at 5:47pm
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lol yeah but im talking his 30mm shroud from tfc. i think all rads now have that 5 deep 'shroud'. a fan casing at 25mm plus the 5mm built into the rad....

and im too lazy to edit that up there. its 'pull is better than push with 25mm fans'.
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Has anyone ever thought of doing a two rad ad three fan sandwich? Like fans, rad, fans, rad, fans?

Like how the NH-D14 works with the dual tower design?
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post #37745 of 106451
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Originally Posted by LayerCakes View Post

Has anyone ever thought of doing a two rad ad three fan sandwich? Like fans, rad, fans, rad, fans?

Like how the NH-D14 works with the dual tower design?

of course. why do you think swiftech made the stacker series and even included the stubby fittings with the rad? but i dont know of anywhere that has tests posted. i never googled it.

*EDIT* i'll be damned. google worked this time.
https://www.google.com/search?q=swiftech+stacker+rads+tested&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
notice martin and skinnee have links in there.
Edited by pc-illiterate - 2/17/13 at 6:00pm
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Question gonna add my gpu in a month or so should I get the koolance 7970 block or the ek block with backplate?
As you are in Vancouver, are you planning on getting one in Canada or the US?
I bought two of the EK blocks for my 7950's from Performance PC, with EK backplates. Their prices are quite good, but you'll get dinged for duty charges.
You will have to decide which block you like best for looks, if you don't mind the crop circles on the EK 7970 block, etc.
I doubt if there is much of a difference in performance between the two blocks, you have to decide which one looks better, cost, etc.
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post #37747 of 106451
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post #37748 of 106451
Nice Red1776, now go there please, very valuable info your rig can provide, I don't have any users like you

You are all invited to post your score Top 30 --- Unigine 'Valley' Benchmark 1.0

OC the hell out of your cards and CPU
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Nice Red1776, now go there please, very valuable info your rig can provide, I don't have any users like you

You are all invited to post your score Top 30 --- Unigine 'Valley' Benchmark 1.0

OC the hell out of your cards and CPU

Thanks KaRL
I quite literally just got it it fired up, but heaven 4.0 and 'Valley' were my next stop smile.gif
BTW, is CF working yet for either? I just installed 13.2 beta 5
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Thanks KaRL
I quite literally just got it it fired up, but heaven 4.0 and 'Valley' were my next stop smile.gif
BTW, is CF working yet for either? I just installed 13.2 beta 5

It works but trifire gets 66% Scaling and Quadfire has 50% scaling on all cards. We are waiting for Driver (Or profile) optimization. But if you want to get the most out of your Quad setup until a new driver release, follow this screenshot to have better scaling but not quite 100% (I would say average 75% on all cards, sometime 95% and other times its 55%)

Do a custom "Application profile" for Valley using optimize 1x1 In Crossfire Mode

Can do the same for heaven 4.0

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