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Hi everyone!
I've been reading a lot in this thread and on my way of building my own watercooled PC.

I have a 3D drawing now of what I'd like it to be like and I'm generally quite pleased, however I'm concerned about the negative pressure in the case when the big 180mm fan would kick in as well.


Got my own thread here: PowerMac G5 build


Hope to hear everyone's thoughts on this, thanks!

MASSIVE props on using an old G5 case, one of the nicest most minimal design cases ever! Going to follow your build log closely
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post #38232 of 106102
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Hi everyone!
I've been reading a lot in this thread and on my way of building my own watercooled PC.

I have a 3D drawing now of what I'd like it to be like and I'm generally quite pleased, however I'm concerned about the negative pressure in the case when the big 180mm fan would kick in as well.


Got my own thread here: PowerMac G5 build


Hope to hear everyone's thoughts on this, thanks!

Take a look at my build log, I am currently working on a G5 mod as well. Should be of help!

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post #38233 of 106102
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Originally Posted by MiiX View Post

Anyone who can google better than me? :\
Im looking for perfomance differences on the Alphacool UT60-series radiators, 1 fan vs 2 fans(push/pull).

You needed to include "Martin's Liquid Lab" at the beginning on that Google expedition - try it and you'll be good to go. biggrin.gif There are a few other sites that have reviews of the UT60 but that's a good place to start. As someone who has a couple of them I can tell you from experience that unless you're going to run your fans <800RPM or you're cooling more than CPU+2 GPUS (in my case 7970's) that the difference is going to be around 1C to your delta... so in other words, it's basically an aesthetic choice. If you're going to run your fans really slow like 600-800RPM in the interest of silence, then I would still say it's definitely unnecessary - but at those speeds the push-pull config will probably improve the delta by closer to 3C because they are pretty thick rads and start out performing their thinner brothers (like the ST30 and XT45) only after the fans hit 1000RPM. However, my two UT60's keep my delta at no more than 8C while benching and 5C under normal gaming and desktop use - and I have them push only with the fans reduced to ~900RPM. smile.gif
post #38234 of 106102
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You needed to include "Martin's Liquid Lab" at the beginning on that Google expedition - try it and you'll be good to go. biggrin.gif There are a few other sites that have reviews of the UT60 but that's a good place to start. As someone who has a couple of them I can tell you from experience that unless you're going to run your fans <800RPM or you're cooling more than CPU+2 GPUS (in my case 7970's) that the difference is going to be around 1C to your delta... so in other words, it's basically an aesthetic choice. If you're going to run your fans really slow like 600-800RPM in the interest of silence, then I would still say it's definitely unnecessary - but at those speeds the push-pull config will probably improve the delta by closer to 3C because they are pretty thick rads and start out performing their thinner brothers (like the ST30 and XT45) only after the fans hit 1000RPM. However, my two UT60's keep my delta at no more than 8C while benching and 5C under normal gaming and desktop use - and I have them push only with the fans reduced to ~900RPM. smile.gif

any suggestions / concerns on using push/pull with different fans?
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post #38235 of 106102
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any suggestions / concerns on using push/pull with different fans?

Well my gut says "don't do it" but my brain says "air is air so as long as the static pressures of the two fans are similar or balanced via fan controller - it doesn't matter at all". You can take that with a grain of salt however - because my brain does some silly things now and then. biggrin.gif

EDIT:
I guess the most obvious response would be - as long as you have the fans pointed in the right directions (don't laugh too quickly - I've had at least two senior moments in this regard) and the 'pull' fans are at least as competent as the 'push' side - then the absolute worst possible outcome is that you don't get any better performance... every other possible outcome is just gravy at that point. smile.gif
Edited by DiGiCiDAL - 2/27/13 at 10:26am
post #38236 of 106102
For all the watercoolers what would your Idle temp be for the CPU, and the max temp while gaming. And could you please provide a Ambient as well.
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post #38237 of 106102
Idle : 27'C-30'C

Load 100% (prime95): 64'C

While Gaming: 47'C

Frequency: 4.6 Ghz

(With C1E and Speedstep for idle )
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post #38238 of 106102
hey gents been lazy finishing my build...

all i really have left is wire mangt and few odds and ends.. but cannot pull myself away from Halo long enough to finish lol...

where im at atm..

Keep getting micro bubbles in my top res.. i stick a zip tie in there and keep removing them but they come back... kinda has me scratching my head atm.

Onlything i can think of is my mcp 35x is turned all the way up causing turbulence somewhere as i have no leaks.

That there is what i call clean if u got 3 things in the case and call it clean then meh yeah that is easy bro..

Try the Ubber large amount of stuff i have.. it takes 10 hrs to get it looking clean lol.
Ignore the black wires hanging down those are leds and attach to the top of the case which i have off atm lol.


LoL do not take those clean 8 pin plugs for granted... Anybody who has worked with these knows there a pita..

I spent 1 1/2 hrs getting them looking perfect like that.. braid by braid... so i would not have to use ugly zip ties on them...
I got them all to perfect lengh held in place on the back of the MB tray with 20LB test tape XD
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post #38239 of 106102
Nice build, that is extreme CPU cooling thumb.gif

I think you need to let your loop some time for the air bubles to vanish. So many rads wink.gif
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post #38240 of 106102
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Originally Posted by Car17 View Post

For all the watercoolers what would your Idle temp be for the CPU, and the max temp while gaming. And could you please provide a Ambient as well.

3570K @ 4.7GHz/1.4V (my crappy chip)
Idle (1.6GHz) is ~27C
Max Gaming is ~56C
Max Intel Burn Testing 10Min is ~78C (hottest core - coolest core is 64C and yes, I need to de-lid that sucker)

Ambient is usually around ~24C
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