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Originally Posted by DiGiCiDAL View Post

Well my gut says "don't do it" but my brain says "air is air so as long as the static pressures of the two fans are similar or balanced via fan controller - it doesn't matter at all". You can take that with a grain of salt however - because my brain does some silly things now and then. biggrin.gif

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I guess the most obvious response would be - as long as you have the fans pointed in the right directions (don't laugh too quickly - I've had at least two senior moments in this regard) and the 'pull' fans are at least as competent as the 'push' side - then the absolute worst possible outcome is that you don't get any better performance... every other possible outcome is just gravy at that point. smile.gif

...and my wallet screams:"What's wrong with the Kuhler 920????" biggrin.gif

the main goal behind this is mainly to use LED fans on the push side (since it would be a front rad) and non LED on the back. (to prevent unwanted lighting in the case interior). the problem is that if going non-LED fans it usually comes down to either GT's or Corsair's SP's (since why not go on something good for a change) and front LED would be weaker (probably NZXT FZ fans or Bitfenix or something else) and i guess the difference in pressure of the fans could affect performance and maybe noise too.

The main question is, which should me the more important/dominant fan? the push or the pull? (and noise consequences of using such a setup)



btw, don't even start on the silly things my brain does sometimes. (hint: one of them ends up spending a lot of money for marginal and barely necessary things that aren't important just to boast my e peen and stare hours and my rig tongue.gif )
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Nice build, that is extreme CPU cooling thumb.gif

I think you need to let your loop some time for the air bubles to vanish. So many rads wink.gif

Been a week lol.

Id have blocks on the gpus but i can only use uni blocks or sale them and get something else and did not wanna go thru the hassle..

Ill just wait for HD 8xxx or Gtx 7xx.
    
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...and my wallet screams:"What's wrong with the Kuhler 920????" biggrin.gif

the main goal behind this is mainly to use LED fans on the push side (since it would be a front rad) and non LED on the back. (to prevent unwanted lighting in the case interior). the problem is that if going non-LED fans it usually comes down to either GT's or Corsair's SP's (since why not go on something good for a change) and front LED would be weaker (probably NZXT FZ fans or Bitfenix or something else) and i guess the difference in pressure of the fans could affect performance and maybe noise too.

The main question is, which should me the more important/dominant fan? the push or the pull? (and noise consequences of using such a setup)



btw, don't even start on the silly things my brain does sometimes. (hint: one of them ends up spending a lot of money for marginal and barely necessary things that aren't important just to boast my e peen and stare hours and my rig tongue.gif )


why not takin' Bitfenix with and without LEDs? except lihgting and colour thy should be pretty much the same. smile.gif
 
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Anyone who can google better than me? :\
Im looking for perfomance differences on the Alphacool UT60-series radiators, 1 fan vs 2 fans(push/pull).
Not sure if someone saw this rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by MiiX View Post

Anyone who can google better than me? :\
Im looking for perfomance differences on the Alphacool UT60-series radiators, 1 fan vs 2 fans(push/pull).
Not sure if someone saw this rolleyes.gif

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Originally Posted by MiiX View Post

Anyone who can google better than me? :\
Im looking for perfomance differences on the Alphacool UT60-series radiators, 1 fan vs 2 fans(push/pull).

You needed to include "Martin's Liquid Lab" at the beginning on that Google expedition - try it and you'll be good to go. biggrin.gif There are a few other sites that have reviews of the UT60 but that's a good place to start. As someone who has a couple of them I can tell you from experience that unless you're going to run your fans <800RPM or you're cooling more than CPU+2 GPUS (in my case 7970's) that the difference is going to be around 1C to your delta... so in other words, it's basically an aesthetic choice. If you're going to run your fans really slow like 600-800RPM in the interest of silence, then I would still say it's definitely unnecessary - but at those speeds the push-pull config will probably improve the delta by closer to 3C because they are pretty thick rads and start out performing their thinner brothers (like the ST30 and XT45) only after the fans hit 1000RPM. However, my two UT60's keep my delta at no more than 8C while benching and 5C under normal gaming and desktop use - and I have them push only with the fans reduced to ~900RPM. smile.gif
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why not takin' Bitfenix with and without LEDs? except lihgting and colour thy should be pretty much the same. smile.gif

the problem that the idea works Only with a company that has the exact same fan series in LED and non LED, and it's almost only bitfenix.
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the problem that the idea works Only with a company that has the exact same fan series in LED and non LED, and it's almost only bitfenix.
Coolermaster makes R4's with and without LEDs
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If you get a Silverstone air filter it should help. I would say set everything to intake and exhaust out the back and you shouldn't have a problem. It might run a little hotter having a lot of positive pressure but you wouldn't have to clean it.

At first I had the three eLoops planned under the 360 rad, however these eLoops apparently suck with any airfilter so the computer would transform into a vacuum cleaner (but hey, it's windows, it's supposed to suck biggrin.gif) That's why I reversed the setup one afternoon and I really liked the result because the radiator is exactly as thick as the bottom part of the case shielded where the PSU used to live. Gives a way cleaner look than anything I'd otherwise be able to accomplish. I also considered the AP-15's but I'm afraid the ball-bearing whine will make me throw the G5 out of the window. I'm pretty sensitive about those little bits of noise and when idling the PC should be dead silent, inaudible, that's why the AP182 will only kick in when needed (hence the aquaero)


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MASSIVE props on using an old G5 case, one of the nicest most minimal design cases ever! Going to follow your build log closely

My thought exactly haha! Already scored a G5 case in mint condition (when that ***** arrived I figured out I wouldn't be able to fit a 420 rad, bummer! tongue.gif) but I will have to take my time on this project since financing the 3770 and 7970 will take a little time chewing on a stick xD


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Take a look at my build log, I am currently working on a G5 mod as well. Should be of help!

Jeffinslaw
Got it bookmarked! Will look at it another time when I haven't had this much beer drunken.gif
Looking at how others solved this will definitely help me a lot probably, it's a shame really that most of these G5's are actually dusting away somewhere in the attic.
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I did mine with Aerocool Shark Series 120mm. Static pressure and cfm are decent for my medium thickness radiiator. If it were thicker I'd probably have not used them but I figured why not since I had two of the led one's around already.
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Coolermaster makes R4's with and without LEDs

i said Almost only Bitfenix. i know that there are companies that have similar line ups but they are quite few. (for red the best i've seen is Phobya. Black fans, red bladed fans And Red LED fans with a switch. also blue fans and the new eLoop red fans)

but what if i'd want the beautiful LED effect of the NZXT FZ fan in the front (push) and in the rear (pull i want a simple black fan? (NZXT offer a white bladed FZ non LED fan but sometimes it can ruin a theme. i know it's a bad example since you could not only go with different fans but also paint the blades, but the concept still remains)
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