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post #50421 of 106449
Get an Aquaero 6. Should only be a cpl more weeks til release =)
    
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post #50422 of 106449
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Is that manually or can you set it up to throttle them the same as the CPU_FAN header?

It can do it automatically if you can setup your own fan curves.
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post #50423 of 106449
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Originally Posted by Lourad View Post

I have the Asus Z87 Sabertooth , it has plenty of 4pin headers. 2 for the CPU, and I think 3 others.

Yeah I was just looking at the manual for the Sabertooth, and the 2 CPU ones are PWM but the other 4 pin ones are not, I believe those work via straight voltage control from those headers, not via a PWM signal like the CPU ones.
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Damn, I Do like the look of that setup though.
    
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Get an Aquaero 6. Should only be a cpl more weeks til release =)

Maybe so.. one expensive fan controller smile.gif
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Yeah it's expensive. But the 6 has full PWM control. And as far as level of automatic control, nothing really compares.
    
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post #50427 of 106449
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Originally Posted by grifftech View Post

Hopefully it's OK to ask questions in here. I am going to be doing my first WC rig and getting everything sorted is quite a task smile.gif

Anyone know of or use a Z87 mobo that has more than 1 PWM fan header besides the CPU_FAN. I will be controlling my Swiftech PWM pump with the CPU_FAN and would love to be able to have my fans throttle in sync with the pump depending on CPU load.

Are there any good PWM LED radiator fans out there?

I will stop there, don't want to do a brain dump in one post.

Thanks,
Chris

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Originally Posted by lowfat View Post

With my Z87X-UD5H I have 5. Withe the Gigabyte software I can control the speed of everyone of them even if they aren't PWM fans.


While you may be able to control the speed of fans connected to the sysfan and cpu-opt headers, they are clearly not PWM headers in the same way that we refer to a CPU fan header as PWM, meaning for a designated 4 pin fan, with the 4th pin being a 5V duty cycle modulated control signal.

Pages 26 & 27 of the manual clearly show that the 4th pin is a fixed 5V pin, (VCC)

The normal +12V second pin is used for speed control, either by controlling voltage, or pulse width modulating the 12V supply.

If you were to connect a 4 wire PWM fan to one of these headers, it would appear to work, but only because the VCC pin would be telling the fan to run at full speed, while the power delivery from the 2nd pin would be the actual controlling factor.

For fans, it really wouldn't make a crap load of difference whether 3 pin or 4, as either fan will change speed,

For controlling a PWM pump, that gets its power from a molex, it won't do squat. . . .

And powering the pump from the header, while it would likely work at first, would ultimately fry the header, as they are not typically designed for that much load.


To grifftech who asked the question, . . . yes, with a PWM pump on the CPU fan header, it will throttle based on CPU temp, though that doesn't really gain you anything more than annoying variations in noise, . . . . and fans, whether they are 3 pin or 4 pin, can be controlled from the other headers.

There's actually no reason to spend the extra cost for real 4 wire PWM fans either, if you plan to run them from sys fan headers anyway.

If you're using the Swiftech 35X, beware that the published graph is typically crap, it stays at min speed until about 17%, and then is fully maxed out slightly before 50% PWM.

If you're going to use the CPU temp to control the speed anyway, use the info I posted to set up your curve.

In reality, you're really just better off setting the pump at a fixed speed that gives a nominal 1 to 1.5 GPM flow rate and varying just the fan speeds to control temps.


Unfortunately, there's yet another downfall to the plan to run the pump from the CPU header and the fans from the sysfan headers, in that the mobo headers seldom have the current sourcing capacity to run the number of fans on a water cooling setup.

The only work around for that would be to use real PWM fans, power them from the PSU, and use just the PWM signal from the CPU header . . . . and then you'd still need a way to have a real PWM signal for your pump.


Just stuff to think about as you plan . . .

Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 10/5/13 at 7:36pm
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Hey ypu guy's i just wantet to show you guy's what i have been working on lately

I know the pic is not the best bit i am planing to get a canon to take some better one's insted of useing my phone

But this is what i have got right new
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To the guy about the lamptron fc5 v3 I am using one on my system and like it allot only small grip the dials are very sensitive to the touch my take a few getting you preferred rpm but it looks and performs awesome!thumb.gif
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What do you think?

I am having trouble removing the coolant from my current project, I was going to replace the Rasa with a Bitspower EF block. But to do so I need to remove the MB as well.

Is it worth it even if the Rasa will keep my temps good enough at the max OC?
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