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Sidewinder already has prices usually lower than the others, so in a sense the whole website is on "discount"

I didn't find that ..... Of the 68 items I had in my spreadsheet that was ordering they had among the least and the ones they had what I was saving was offset by the extra shipping.
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post #57952 of 107027
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I didn't find that ..... Of the 68 items I had in my spreadsheet that was ordering they had among the least and the ones they had what I was saving was offset by the extra shipping.

I've definitely found that sidewinder's usually, but not always, the cheapest for what selection they have, and the only place with cheaper shipping options than Sidewinder that I've seen has been Jab-Tech. For example, I just bought a bunch more AP-15s from Sidewinder for $4 a piece less than FCPU and $1 each less than PPC's sells them for, and on top of that Sidewinder's shipping charges came out to be less than half of what FCPU wanted, and $4 less than PPCs. Even with PPC's 5.5% discount they weren't even close to Sidewinder. Last week I needed a handful of fittings and Sidewinder had all of them I needed for cheaper than everywhere else I checked (FCPU, PPCs, Jab-tech) but Jab-tech's cheaper shipping made them the better deal but only by just over $1.

I've never seen anything I needed cheaper at FCPU or PPCs than Sidewinder. The big drawback with Sidewinder for me is they don't have much of a selection, and a lot of what they do carry isn't kept in stock. If they don't have everything I need to order at one time, then it's usually not worth ordering from them and instead I wind up paying more per item for a single order elsewhere.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 1/8/14 at 7:02am
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I use Sidewinder a lot for small, last minute, emergency orders. And since they are only about 2 hours away from me I usually get my order the next day with the cheapest shipping option. Plus, Gary is an amazing guy. I've had him call me when an item I ordered was out of stock and he offered to send me something that was pretty much identical, but cost a little more, without charging any extra. Did the same thing when he shipped me a Bitspower Crystal plug without LED hole when I ordered one with the hole. If it wasn't for their small selection as compared to PPCs, I'd order everything from them everytime
post #57954 of 107027
Unfortunate but of course Gary does not have the selection of these other guys or even that he once did; it's just him and his wife now as I mentioned and they are a much smaller business than those other vendors. This market isn't as big as it once was either...

PPCs has a warehouse with "puller" employees like Amazon. Gary probably uses his garage.
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post #57955 of 107027
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I've definitely found that sidewinder's usually, but not always, the cheapest for what selection they have, and the only place with cheaper shipping options than Sidewinder that I've seen has been Jab-Tech. For example, I just bought a bunch more AP-15s from Sidewinder for $4 a piece less than FCPU and $1 each less than PPC's sells them for, and on top of that Sidewinder's shipping charges came out to be less than half of what FCPU wanted, and $4 less than PPCs. Even with PPC's 5.5% discount they weren't even close to Sidewinder. Last week I needed a handful of fittings and Sidewinder had all of them I needed for cheaper than everywhere else I checked (FCPU, PPCs, Jab-tech) but Jab-tech's cheaper shipping made them the better deal but only by just over $1.

I've never seen anything I needed cheaper at FCPU or PPCs than Sidewinder. The big drawback with Sidewinder for me is they don't have much of a selection, and a lot of what they do carry isn't kept in stock. If they don't have everything I need to order at one time, then it's usually not worth ordering from them and instead I wind up paying more per item for a single order elsewhere.

My point was that when buying 68 items ($2362)....shipping doesn't change significantly from 30 items ..... once WBs are in the box, adding the fan pins, plastic connectors, HS etc doesn't change the shipping for all the added little tiny parts that weight almost nothing. In my spreadsheet, adding up the items common to any store, the total differences ranged from $6-8 ..... that's was not enough to get above the minimum shipping cost to make any purchases to additional vendors worthwhile. Of course that was specific to my list and "your mileage may vary".

I had FCPU, PPCs, Jabtech, Sidewinder and 1 more in my spreadsheet .... can't remember the last outfit....was one I saw here but not often. As I recall, someone was taking over at some point.

Im not saying don't shop ..... I spent a lotta time getting prices and checking inventory at 5 places x 68 times.....I'm saying the opposite....just make sure ya include all the costs ...., and that includes money and time.

Option 1 - Buy 66 items from one place for $2340 + $22 shipping

Option 2 - buy 40 items from 1 place for $1500 + $20 shipping, $492 from another place with $12 shipping and $336 from a 3rd with $9 shipping, ya lost money and ya lost a lotta time.

Ignoring the shipping costs for the moment, for the hours I spent checking inventory and collecting prices, I felt it certainly it was worth the cost difference....so when I decided to add some flow meters, I didn't compare and it bit me on the ass. Paid way more than I coulda..... had I waited a week, the prices were the same everywhere.... wasn't so much a vendor difference as it was a I think a change in manufacturer pricing. That's an example were shopping / comparing certainly wuda certainly be worth the T & E.

I was all set to buy from newegg as I did with case and previous fan purchases and said "lemme compare".... so went shopping for more case fans and was surprised to have found them (so far) cheaper at FCPU (PPCs, Sidewinder, jabtech doesn't carry,

LED
Amazon - $18
FCPU = $16
Newegg - $18

Non LED ones:
Amazon - $19
FCPU - $15
Newegg - $15


PWM ones
Amazon - $18
FCPU - $18
Newegg - $18

So my advice would be .... even when ya checked all around and the same guy has *always" been cheaper.... maybe not every time but it's worth looking again every once and a while to see what things have changed.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 1/8/14 at 8:52am
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Finally got the RIVE black edition waterblock. I really like the nickel version. it should look really nice with the mayhems white pastel.


Which fittings you running there?

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Which fittings you running there?
Looks like the EK 16mm HD tube fittings!

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Finally got the RIVE black edition waterblock. I really like the nickel version. it should look really nice with the mayhems white pastel.

It looks really beautiful.


Thanks guys. yes they are the 16mm ek hard tube fittings in black. I'm hoping the colors will go good with the white pastel coolant. I never get my color scheme right. I think these are the only option right now for 16mm tubing. I couldn't find any others that big. I wanted to go with a little bit bigger tubing because the sth10 is so huge.


Update on my damaged white monsta rad just to let you guys know about frozencpu support. They already sent me a tracking number last night for the replacement rad. They will use my photos for the ups damage claim and just have ups pick up the damaged rad from me at a later date. That was really cool of them so I didn't have to wait for the shipping claim to go thru. I am so happy with how they handled the whole situation.

The replacement rad is already shipping and I got the damaged package on Monday so that is amazingly fast. I was a little shocked.
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post #57957 of 107027
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My point was that when buying 68 items ($2362)....shipping doesn't change significantly from 30 items ..... once WBs are in the box, adding the fan pins, plastic connectors, HS etc doesn't change the shipping for all the added little tiny parts that weight almost nothing. In my spreadsheet, adding up the items common to any store, the total differences ranged from $6-8 ..... that's was not enough to get above the minimum shipping cost to make any purchases to additional vendors worthwhile. Of course that was specific to my list and "your mileage may vary". Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I had FCPU, PPCs, Jabtech, Sidewinder and 1 more in my spreadsheet .... can't remember the last outfit....was one I saw here but not often. As I recall, someone was taking over at some point.

Im not saying don't shop ..... I spent a lotta time getting prices and checking inventory at 5 places x 68 times.....I'm saying the opposite....just make sure ya include all the costs ...., and that includes money and time.

Option 1 - Buy 66 items from one place for $2340 + $22 shipping

Option 2 - buy 40 items from 1 place for $1500 + $20 shipping, $492 from another place with $12 shipping and $336 from a 3rd with $9 shipping, ya lost money and ya lost a lotta time.

Ignoring the shipping costs for the moment, for the hours I spent checking inventory and collecting prices, I felt it certainly it was worth the cost difference....so when I decided to add some flow meters, I didn't compare and it bit me on the ass. Paid way more than I coulda..... had I waited a week, the prices were the same everywhere.... wasn't so much a vendor difference as it was a I think a change in manufacturer pricing. That's an example were shopping / comparing certainly wuda certainly be worth the T & E.

I was all set to buy from newegg as I did with case and previous fan purchases and said "lemme compare".... so went shopping for more case fans and was surprised to have found them (so far) cheaper at FCPU (PPCs, Sidewinder, jabtech doesn't carry,

LED
Amazon - $18
FCPU = $16
Newegg - $18

Non LED ones:
Amazon - $19
FCPU - $15
Newegg - $15


PWM ones
Amazon - $18
FCPU - $18
Newegg - $18

So my advice would be .... even when ya checked all around and the same guy has *always" been cheaper.... maybe not every time but it's worth looking again every once and a while to see what things have changed.

Listen to the man, he makes a lot of sense thumb.gif
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Update on my damaged white monsta rad just to let you guys know about frozencpu support. They already sent me a tracking number last night for the replacement rad. They will use my photos for the ups damage claim and just have ups pick up the damaged rad from me at a later date. That was really cool of them so I didn't have to wait for the shipping claim to go thru. I am so happy with how they handled the whole situation.

The replacement rad is already shipping and I got the damaged package on Monday so that is amazingly fast. I was a little shocked.

With people talking about pricing and vendors and such, I noticed that you do pay more from FCPU but their RMA process and customer support and shipping time is very, very good.

One time I placed an order but realized 10 minutes later that I selected the wrong color on one of the fittings. I called them but it was already too late, my "Rush" order had been sent to the warehouse and was being packed already.... 10 minutes later. I got the shipping notice about 15 minutes after that. The RMA was simple.
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Thanks guys. yes they are the 16mm ek hard tube fittings in black. I'm hoping the colors will go good with the white pastel coolant. I never get my color scheme right. I think these are the only option right now for 16mm tubing. I couldn't find any others that big. I wanted to go with a little bit bigger tubing because the sth10 is so huge.


Update on my damaged white monsta rad just to let you guys know about frozencpu support. They already sent me a tracking number last night for the replacement rad. They will use my photos for the ups damage claim and just have ups pick up the damaged rad from me at a later date. That was really cool of them so I didn't have to wait for the shipping claim to go thru. I am so happy with how they handled the whole situation.

The replacement rad is already shipping and I got the damaged package on Monday so that is amazingly fast. I was a little shocked.


Awesome! Glad they took care of ya.


They have always been real good for me too. They sent me the wrong fittings before and they shipped the replacement as soon as I gave them the tracking information for the return. They gave me a store credit for the value of fittings as well, so I ended up with the fittings plus my money back on them smile.gif. They're shipping times and costs are best for me too, so I use them a lot. Even if it costs a little more, their service makes up for it.
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Thanks guys. yes they are the 16mm ek hard tube fittings in black. I'm hoping the colors will go good with the white pastel coolant. I never get my color scheme right. I think these are the only option right now for 16mm tubing. I couldn't find any others that big. I wanted to go with a little bit bigger tubing because the sth10 is so huge.


Update on my damaged white monsta rad just to let you guys know about frozencpu support. They already sent me a tracking number last night for the replacement rad. They will use my photos for the ups damage claim and just have ups pick up the damaged rad from me at a later date. That was really cool of them so I didn't have to wait for the shipping claim to go thru. I am so happy with how they handled the whole situation.

The replacement rad is already shipping and I got the damaged package on Monday so that is amazingly fast. I was a little shocked.


Awesome! Glad they took care of ya.


They have always been real good for me too. They sent me the wrong fittings before and they shipped the replacement as soon as I gave them the tracking information for the return. They gave me a store credit for the value of fittings as well, so I ended up with the fittings plus my money back on them smile.gif. They're shipping times and costs are best for me too, so I use them a lot. Even if it costs a little more, their service makes up for it.

Thanks, ya I like to use them also because they are in the same state as me. Shipping times are usually great.
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