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I am fairly new to water cooling.. though I have owned a couple of corsairs closed loops AiO coolers.. I have yet to build a custom loop.. I plan to start my first in a couple months.. but I have a question that I would like answered before I throw all the money into the parts needed to build the loop...

mainly.. will I see a real decrease in temps over what I am getting now?.. I know the AMD FX chips have poor sensors.. probably placed in a goofy place to give accurate temps.. but from what I get from BIOS and a few monitoring programs I am getting temps around 23 degrees C at idle.. and about 29-31 under 100% load with Prime95.. I am currently running an AMD FX-6300 OC'd to 4.4ghz and the Corsair H100i AiO cooler works REALLY well... but I would still like to build my own loop.. mainly because they look nice.. and I enjoy learning and building new things.. (even though I will probably have to totally rebuild my case lol.. the carbide series cases were built with water cooling in mind... except mainly for corsair's hydro series but I am pretty sure I can pull it off....


but like I ask.. will I see a noticable difference in temps using a custom loop? greater than or equal to 5 degrees lower? I know its hard to cool lower than the ambient temps in the room in which your pc is running.. but still.. I'd like to know before I spend all that money just to look cool lol

thanks in advance
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That's why you buy the Multi-Port top for it!!!

And fill all the ports biggrin.gif

If you use the Modtop V2 with the res like in the pic you only have 3 ports, 2 in 1 out thumbsupsmiley.png
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post #58253 of 106717
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Frozen CPU put it together, they installed the pump inside. I opened the back plate to verify early on but never touched the pump everything was rock solid inside so I just screwed the cover plate back on but its not the cover plate that's leaking its coming out the holes in which the wiring comes out which leads me to believe it's where the pump is attached...

gonna have to get a small bowel to put under this thing in case I open it in the back, is this even fixable?

For now just gonna flip it on for a brief moment to help push the water out that's in there vs waiting for it all to slowly drip out.

Doesn't the back part of that res just screw on over the pump? It seems like the O-ring isn't sealing.

The bad news is that pump should be running any time it is plugged into an active power supply, at least at the minimum 25%, if not at full speed as they are factory set.. They are pretty quite at minimum speed.

If water got onto the back of the pump, as seems likely, and you then powered it on, its possible the MPS board has been killed.
Edit: Nevermind, I assumed when you mentioned Aquabus that it was the USB pump. Still, water should never allowed onto the back area of any D5 pump because they aren't water proof. Some people have been having trouble getting PWM pumps to work with the AQ6, but even if it gets no Signal it should still run.

Everything needs to be unplugged and disassembled, dried off and tested.
Edited by Jakusonfire - 1/10/14 at 11:17pm
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post #58254 of 106717
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Originally Posted by OdinValk View Post

I am fairly new to water cooling.. though I have owned a couple of corsairs closed loops AiO coolers.. I have yet to build a custom loop.. I plan to start my first in a couple months.. but I have a question that I would like answered before I throw all the money into the parts needed to build the loop...

mainly.. will I see a real decrease in temps over what I am getting now?.. I know the AMD FX chips have poor sensors.. probably placed in a goofy place to give accurate temps.. but from what I get from BIOS and a few monitoring programs I am getting temps around 23 degrees C at idle.. and about 29-31 under 100% load with Prime95.. I am currently running an AMD FX-6300 OC'd to 4.4ghz and the Corsair H100i AiO cooler works REALLY well... but I would still like to build my own loop.. mainly because they look nice.. and I enjoy learning and building new things.. (even though I will probably have to totally rebuild my case lol.. the carbide series cases were built with water cooling in mind... except mainly for corsair's hydro series but I am pretty sure I can pull it off....


but like I ask.. will I see a noticable difference in temps using a custom loop? greater than or equal to 5 degrees lower? I know its hard to cool lower than the ambient temps in the room in which your pc is running.. but still.. I'd like to know before I spend all that money just to look cool lol

thanks in advance
If you're only planning to cool your CPU, it's not worth it. But if you're going to throw in a GPU or two, that's when I'd say go for it thumb.gif

Also, you can't cool below ambient.
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post #58255 of 106717
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The bad news is that pump should be running any time it is plugged into an active power supply, at least at the minimum 25%, if not at full speed as they are factory set.. They are pretty quite at minimum speed.

If water got onto the back of the pump, as seems likely, and you then powered it on, its possible the MPS board has been killed.
Edit: Nevermind, I assumed when you mentioned Aquabus that it was the USB pump. Still, water should never allowed onto the back area of any D5 pump because they aren't water proof. Some people have been having trouble getting PWM pumps to work with the AQ6, but even if it gets no Signal it should still run.

It won't run if the PWM cable is plugged into something that isn't turned on. I know because I always forget to unplug it from my mobo when I do leak tests and it doesn't turn on (I have the same pump).
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If you're only planning to cool your CPU, it's not worth it. But if you're going to throw in a GPU or two, that's when I'd say go for it thumb.gif

Also, you can't cool below ambient.

well you CAN cool below ambient.. but only with extreme cooling like dry ice or whatever.. and only for short periods of time..

so basically.. unless I am cooling both the CPU and GPU.. its not worth it.. other than for looks... hmm.. thats what I figured.. unfortunately.. a waterblock and back plate do not currently exsist for the MSI gaming cards.. as they are not reference cards like the EVGA or Gigabyte cards.. MSI gaming edition cards have different size and dimensions than the regular cards.. ohwell

thanks for the answers!
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well you CAN cool below ambient.. but only with extreme cooling like dry ice or whatever.. and only for short periods of time..

so basically.. unless I am cooling both the CPU and GPU.. its not worth it.. other than for looks... hmm.. thats what I figured.. unfortunately.. a waterblock and back plate do not currently exsist for the MSI gaming cards.. as they are not reference cards like the EVGA or Gigabyte cards.. MSI gaming edition cards have different size and dimensions than the regular cards.. ohwell

thanks for the answers!

I'm pretty sure for most water coolers, there will be a point where water cooling is all about aesthetic look (and overkill)
That's what I'm currently doing with new pc, I dont care how they perform as long as it looks good

Most of water cooling products nowadays has little to no difference on performance within the competitors
and I found most of the good looking one is also a well built and good performance like AC products
which also come with high price smile.gif
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well you CAN cool below ambient.. but only with extreme cooling like dry ice or whatever.. and only for short periods of time..

so basically.. unless I am cooling both the CPU and GPU.. its not worth it.. other than for looks... hmm.. thats what I figured.. unfortunately.. a waterblock and back plate do not currently exsist for the MSI gaming cards.. as they are not reference cards like the EVGA or Gigabyte cards.. MSI gaming edition cards have different size and dimensions than the regular cards.. ohwell

thanks for the answers!

I'm pretty sure for most water coolers, there will be a point where water cooling is all about aesthetic look (and overkill)
That's what I'm currently doing with new pc, I dont care how they perform as long as it looks good

Most of water cooling products nowadays has little to no difference on performance within the competitors
and I found most of the good looking one is also a well built and good performance like AC products
which also come with high price smile.gif


Now WC gear is matured,this is exactly how I see it now,the obsessing about flow rates and relative temps fade away when you have tested lots of different kit and find that all of it performs the same,when you realize that nothing is really thermally limited anymore like 1366 and below then its more an aesthetic exercise.
Blasphemy I know but true none the less.

Quality,Reliability and Aesthetics are my criteria for selection now.
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Now WC gear is matured,this is exactly how I see it now,the obsessing about flow rates and relative temps fade away when you have tested lots of different kit and find that all of it performs the same,when you realize that nothing is really thermally limited anymore like 1366 and below then its more an aesthetic exercise.
Blasphemy I know but true none the less.

Quality,Reliability and Aesthetics are my criteria for selection now.

Amén!

I also look for maximum silence biggrin.gif
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Not on topic but im well chuffed with it.




Airbrushed the Caselabs logo on,looks good neh?
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MILSPEC II
(8 items)
 
| LUMO |
(6 items)
 
CLoS3 IMPACT
(8 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
5820k X99m WS 980ti strix 980ti strix 
RAMHard DrivePowerCase
KLEVV Cras DDR4  3tb Red Corsair 600w SFX + 450w SFX Caselabs BH4 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4970k Z97 Gryphon GTX 680 x2 Crucial Ballistix Elite 16Gb 
PowerCase
Be Quiet Dark Power 850 InWin D Frame Mini 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4770k ASUS Impact ITX R9 290 Gskill Trident 2400 
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingCase
Samsung EV0 250 x2 WD black Loop.....oh yes...... Caselabs S3....modded 
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