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If you were paying $0.15/kwh your computer would need to be pulling 700W from the wall all day long to use $3/day. I have a 16 core lga2011 system and a GTX780Ti at 1350/3750 that run full load 24/7. Combined they still don't cost me $3/day.



I've left my watercooled computers unattended and powered on for 3 weeks at a time. I trust my build skills and hardware.

It only peaks 3$ when it's been working all day. a 5.0 3930k is a massive power whore, & three titans # 1200+ @ 1.3v pull ~350-425w each on Skyn3t's vbios. It's normally usage has been ~1.50$ higher. The power company emails us daily reports, as power bills can quickly skyrocket down here in south florida with 2 AC units on a house.
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post #58742 of 106092
$1 a day is still hundreds a year. Like other dude said it adds up. Sure that's chump change to some, but still. Personally, I think the saved power is more important anyway.
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Guys, got any good ideas on how to get a filter behind or infront of radiator fans that is removable when installed/mounted? Thanks
post #58744 of 106092
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What did you figure the amount was for folding per month? I'm pretty sure it was either you or knuckle that added it up and it was penny's per month i believe?

About $60 month to have my two rigs running full load 24/7. I spend more than that on Rockstars. tongue.gif
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If you were paying $0.15/kwh your computer would need to be pulling 700W from the wall all day long to use $3/day. I have a 16 core lga2011 system and a GTX780Ti at 1350/3750 that run full load 24/7. Combined they still don't cost me $3/day.



I've left my watercooled computers unattended and powered on for 3 weeks at a time. I trust my build skills and hardware.

Pilots trust their planes too. Doesn't mean they don't sometimes crash. I haven't had a leak in over two years but I still don't like to take unnecessary risks...
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Pilots trust their planes too. Doesn't mean they don't sometimes crash. I haven't had a leak in over two years but I still don't like to take unnecessary risks...
This. The only two leaks I've ever had was from a faulty 90* rotary adapter and forgetting to put an o-ring back on an inline temperature probe. Both were caught during a leak test. But I still don't like leaving my rig running if I'm leaving the house. Especially now that I've had a pump stop running because of a faulty Molex connector while I was sitting no more than 10 feet away. So if I'm not home, the computer is off.
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post #58747 of 106092
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About $60 month to have my two rigs running full load 24/7. I spend more than that on Rockstars. tongue.gif
Oh wow, I thought it was way less than that.
post #58748 of 106092
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Originally Posted by joejoe69 View Post

They seem to look and possibly perform like HWL 60mm thick rads, can't remember the name. But yeah, they look to be great performing rads. Kinda like a combination of RX thickness and EX fins.
I once came home to my system off and with a coolant puddle on my top GPU. Come to find out, my molex splitter connector for both my pumps were faulty and turned both pumps off. My CPU heated up, melted the IN acrylic tubing and sprung a slow leak. The system shut down safely once it hit a temp limit. After that, I always turned my system off whenever I don't need it on.

I had a similar issue happen years ago after my first attempt at water cooling. I my pump had died and before everything had a chance to shut down I sprung a leak due to the heat buildup and my GPU was drenched. Funny thing is, the card still works!
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I guess it comes down to maths. Which will happen first? Block death, or power bill rape. My power bill has gone up a good 1.50-3.00$ a day since building this system. I'm attributing it to the 3930k more than anything else since it's @ a constant 5.0. Maybe I should look into using offset instead so it can actually go into an idle state)
If you were paying $0.15/kwh your computer would need to be pulling 700W from the wall all day long to use $3/day. I have a 16 core lga2011 system and a GTX780Ti at 1350/3750 that run full load 24/7. Combined they still don't cost me $3/day.



I've left my watercooled computers unattended and powered on for 3 weeks at a time. I trust my build skills and hardware.

This.

Plus,the only point where damage could occur for me is if the GPU fittings sprung a leak...not likely with just water as a coolant and my confidence in my build skills.

If its gonna leak then it will do it whether you are there or not.
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Hey guys, sorry to crash the party but I was wondering if anyone had a link to the most recent thread comparing all the newest waterblocks?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?285753-CPU-water-blocks-roundup

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Anyone recommend some good 140mm rad fans? I'm trying to plan out my build and radiators are probably going to be my first step

Would there be a big enough difference in heat dissipation to warrant the 280's? (higher price, less fan choices)

Would a 240 alphacool st30 and 240 monsta be good enough for highly overclocked 4770k at say 1.4v and two overclocked r9 290's?.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1345-page7.html
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/cooling/heatsinks/37600-phanteks-f140hp?showall=&start=3

Phanteks SP140 / XP 140

And yes on the 280s being worth it, ..... not so much on the Monsta tho.....check the thread here

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457426/radiator-size-estimator

I have a 4770k which I had at 46 multiplier / 46 cache up until last BIOS upgrade which is sending too much voltage and twin 780s w/ 25+% OC on cre and 20+% on memory .... not quite as hot as your 290x's but close. I have an Alphacool XT45-420 on top and a UT60 on bottom w/ just (5) 1200 rpm SP140s in push. At full fan rpm, I maintain 75C under RoG Bench and GPUs are at 39C under Furmark


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What has better cooling potential with a high RPM fan(s) like the Corsair SP120 High Performance? A 240mm ST30 rad or a 120mm UT60 rad?

See the spreadsheet in the radiator size estimator link above.

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Finally, is 100% fill possible? Couldn't I fill it so high, and then have it so when I screw back in the port that I filled from at the top of the res, water kind of gushes out? Or would that be 99.99% fill, in which case even that little air would be okay?

No, it isn't a good idea. Your house loop .... the one for the cold water heater (yes, it's a cold water heater smile.gif .... a hot water heater would heat water that was already hot and what purpose would that serve ?) .... it has an expansion tank or pressure relieve valve as when water gets hot it expands.....on a small loop flex tubing might handle the expansion but the more liquid in system, the more this is a concern. An expansion tank is simply a tank that has trapped air in it.

http://www.fridayharbor.org/Utilities/thermal_expansion.htm
http://westank.com/expansion-tanks/

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I guess it comes down to maths. Which will happen first? Block death, or power bill rape. My power bill has gone up a good 1.50-3.00$ a day since building this system. I'm attributing it to the 3930k more than anything else since it's @ a constant 5.0. Maybe I should look into using offset instead so it can actually go into an idle state.

At idle, I'm at 110 watts, 125 when using office apps .... I'm about 700 under Furmark ..... and get up to like 745 when pumps get going full tilt (Furmark after 90 minutes)

If ya pulling what I'm pulling (twin 780s / 4770k OC'd, 50 watt pumps), I'd expect you'd see (4 hours big gaming, 8 hours normal usage, 12 hours idling) @ $0.10 national average (US).

725 watts x 4 x $0.10 / kw-her / 1000 watts per kw/hr = $0.30
125 watts x 8 x $0.10 / kw-her / 1000 watts per kw/hr = $0.10
100 watts x 12 x $0.10 / kw-her / 1000 watts per kw/hr = $0.12

That's about $0.52 per day ..... add 30 - 40 watts for the monitor for 12 hours would add $0.05, so $0.57.

Where I am, electricity is about 22 cents a kw so we'd pay a bit more .... about $1.25 a day.

Add 50% with a 3rd card and LGA 2011 CPU.

Of course the significant part is, not whether ya gonne turn it off while ya using it, but whether ya gonna turn off in idle.....at a cost of $0.12 a night for a Haswell w/ 2cards of $0.18 w/ 3 cards and LGA 2011, That's $3.65 - $5.47 a month


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Guys, got any good ideas on how to get a filter behind or infront of radiator fans that is removable when installed/mounted? Thanks

Magnetic ? Would really need to know how fans are mounted.


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Originally Posted by B NEGATIVE View Post

If its gonna leak then it will do it whether you are there or not.

But ya not only trusting your build skills..... ya trusting the build skills of each of the guys / gals who built each and every component smile.gif ... liked that failed molex connector that shut the pump down .... tho if ya have the rpm cable connected to the CPU header, the system should shut down. A recent nor'easter put a tree thru our window next to a PC (was off luckily) and it got stormed on. I was in the field (was my job to get power back on for community ... storm was not supposed to be a biggie) and didn't get home for 4 days afterwards..... put a desk fan on it for 3 days after toweling up and it worked fine.

If I'm in the office till after midnite, I generally leave it on .... if I bug out at 3, 5 or 7 I typically turn it off.

At $8.03 a month, (in my neck o' the woods), I can see peeps shutting it down ...almost $100 a year. If I bug outta my office at
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 1/15/14 at 9:31am
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