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Looks like creamsicle *drool*
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So far I've used the tube from McMaster-Carr and Primochill, and I can definitely say that Primochill's acrylic does not have very tight quality-control tolerances. Never any problems with the McMaster-Carr tubing, but with Primochill you will definitely run into tubes that the bending insert doesn't want to slide into / come out of because they have poor quality control issues. There's MANY posts in the 'Acrylic pipebending 101' thread from people who have had those types of problems, and Primochill even admits as much (you can see Brian Farrell, Primochill's owner, discussing it in his how-to video here), and they recommend people sand their bending cord to a smaller dimension and use lubricants to help get their bending cord to work with their tubing.

I had to give up using Primochill's bending cord early on in favor of a length of 9mm buna-n o-ring cord from McMaster-Carr, part # 9679K27, which was a nice find by IT Diva, and use some silicone grease in order to be able to work with the varying I.D. of the Primochill tubing. Primochill actually suggests using olive oil, but that's been universally panned in the 'Acrylic pipebending 101' thread as a bad idea. If you need a lubricant of some sort a few have used soap. but that also can have drawbacks. Best to use a dab of silicone grease, like divers use on o-rings, instead.

As far as actually doing the bending goes or how well they work with Primochill's rigid compression fittings, at least once you have the insert issues worked out, I haven't noticed any major differences between the tubing from Primochill or McMaster-Carr.

FWIW, I bought 18' of the McMaster-Carr tubing only to practice bending with & make a temp loop for testing purposes. I'm actually going with the Primochill tubing in my final loop, but of the two the McMaster-Carr is definitely the 'tighter spec' / easier to work with tube, and @ $3.69 for 6' (0.62¢ ft), compared to Primochill's $20 for 2x2' ($2.50 ft) or $10 for 3' ($3.33 ft), it's a good value as long as you want the clear acrylic. The only reason I could justify using the Primochill instead is if you want the colored versions (like me).
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So far I've used the tube from McMaster-Carr and Primochill, and I can definitely say that Primochill's acrylic does not have very tight quality-control tolerances. Never any problems with the McMaster-Carr tubing, but with Primochill you will definitely run into tubes that the bending insert doesn't want to slide into / come out of because they have poor quality control issues. There's MANY posts in the 'Acrylic pipebending 101' thread from people who have had those types of problems, and Primochill even admits as much (you can see Brian Farrell, Primochill's owner, discussing it in his how-to video here), and they recommend people sand their bending cord to a smaller dimension and use lubricants to help get their bending cord to work with their tubing.

I had to give up using Primochill's bending cord early on in favor of a length of 9mm buna-n o-ring cord from McMaster-Carr, part # 9679K27, which was a nice find by IT Diva, and use some silicone grease in order to be able to work with the varying I.D. of the Primochill tubing. Primochill actually suggests using olive oil, but that's been universally panned in the 'Acrylic pipebending 101' thread as a bad idea. If you need a lubricant of some sort a few have used soap. but that also can have drawbacks. Best to use a dab of silicone grease, like divers use on o-rings, instead.

As far as actually doing the bending goes or how well they work with Primochill's rigid compression fittings, at least once you have the insert issues worked out, I haven't noticed any major differences between the tubing from Primochill or McMaster-Carr.

FWIW, I bought 18' of the McMaster-Carr tubing only to practice bending with & make a temp loop for testing purposes. I'm actually going with the Primochill tubing in my final loop, but of the two the McMaster-Carr is definitely the 'tighter spec' / easier to work with tube, and @ $3.69 for 6' (0.62¢ ft), compared to Primochill's $20 for 2x2' ($2.50 ft) or $10 for 3' ($3.33 ft), it's a good value as long as you want the clear acrylic. The only reason I could justify using the Primochill instead is if you want the colored versions (like me).

Thank you for this, and all of the other folks that weighed in here. +1 rep. Since I will be using the coolant to color the loop I will buy in bulk which will allow me do a ton of practicing until I get it just right. I have seen too many builds that look great but the tubing bends were slightly off so things did not look perfectly horizontal or vertical. I don't want to make that mistake so practice is a must. Thanks again.
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Will try and get hold of a better camera for final pics but here is the finally finished, first time WC build.




I love the build, not a huge fan of orange but you seem to have pulled it off. Do those EK waterblocks have holes for LED's? White LED's would really set that off nicely.
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Humbly requesting to get the opinion of the community. i would like to hear opinions on the DESK COMPACT. I welcome all comments.

The case is 1/8 in aluminum. measuring 9" wide 13" tall and 11" deep



Inside I have the following:
Asus Maxumis VI Gene Motherboard.
Intel's I5-4670K
Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7850 GPU
Corsair 600M PSU
Corsair H100 Water cooler Modded with Res and Backup Pump and Heater core.
Custom GPU water Block
Kingston 120 GB SSD and 500 GB Hitachi
1X 200MM bottom fan 1x80MM top exhaust fan and the 2 small fans I removed from the GPU cooler.





The Temps shown are after running Call of Duty for about 2 hours then Intel's Burnin Test. ambient temp in room is about 21C/70F


Cooling loop runs RES>Pump>CPU>RAD>GPU>RES
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Thank you for this, and all of the other folks that weighed in here. +1 rep. Since I will be using the coolant to color the loop I will buy in bulk which will allow me do a ton of practicing until I get it just right. I have seen too many builds that look great but the tubing bends were slightly off so things did not look perfectly horizontal or vertical. I don't want to make that mistake so practice is a must. Thanks again.

i just finished a build using mcmaster tubing. much better way to go. the tube and insert i bought from them worked much better, and was of course, much cheaper. i have so much tube left, i probably wont need to order any more for a long time. this route is a must, especially for practice, which you will need lots of. here is a bad pic of the rig i finished last night, well nearly finished. still needs cables and lighting done, and i need 3 more fans for the rad to match.










i still need practice myself.

Edited by jimlaheysadrunk - 3/5/14 at 7:23am
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i just finished a build using mcmaster tubing. much better way to go. the tube and insert i bought from them worked much better, and was of course, much cheaper. i have so much tube left, i probably wont need to order any more for a long time. this route is a must, especially for practice, which you will need lots of. here is a bad pic of the rig i finished last night, well nearly finished. still needs cables and lighting done, and i need 3 more fans for the rad to match.
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i still need practice myself.




Thanks, I will buy a ton of it at the prices I have seen. Do they make a backplate for the GPU? What fittings are you using?
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Thanks, I will buy a ton of it at the prices I have seen. Do they make a backplate for the GPU? What fittings are you using?

yep, there is a backplate for my gpu, but that will come later. im using primochill ghost rigid fittings.
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yep, there is a backplate for my gpu, but that will come later. im using primochill ghost rigid fittings.

I will look at those fittings, I can get 60 ft of 3/8" x 1/2" for .65 a foot shipped. Total order less than $40.

The backplate will look sweet!!
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I will look at those fittings, I can get 60 ft of 3/8" x 1/2" for .65 a foot shipped. Total order less than $40.

The backplate will look sweet!!
Just generic acrylic tubing or from a manufacturer like primo/monsoon/xspc?
     
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I wish I'd known about McMaster before I ordered the Primochill. I bought a bunch of it a couple weeks ago, and indeed, I find McMaster to be very easy to use and more consistent and of course MUCH CHEAPER
    
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