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Interesting how you mounted the Res... could we get better pics of that please? thumb.gif
 
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post #62993 of 106453
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So... i'm going to be stuffing a white STH-10 full of black hardware... Should I stick with the black tubing theme, or should I switch over to white tubing for better contrast? acrylic is currently out of the picture, as i'm trying to keep the money spending to a minimum. The only upgrade i'm planning right now is to add another 480x60mm in P/P.

By the way... Is it even possible to run GPU's in parallel/serial/parallel or serial/parallel/serial?


Like Jim mentioned, you'd want to run the lower pair in parallel, with the top card in series with that first pair.

Each of the lower cards will see 1/2 the overall flow rate and the top card sees the full flow rate.

To the system, the effective restriction is 1.5 cards

The easiest way to do that would be to use the Quad semi-parallel terminal with a blanking plate:

Put the cards in slot positions: 7,5,1 with the blanking plate at slot 3.

If you're used to thinking in " GPU slots ", then cards in 4,3,1, blank on #2

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_1018_1038_1207&products_id=37220

http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=59_971_1018_1038_1207&products_id=37708


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Originally Posted by HardwareDecoder View Post

since im on the subject of fans, I'm just using the 1850 rpm or whatever the 1850 means fans that came with my original xspc kit, and some crappy cooler master regular old case fans for the front rad, what are the best fans for radiators? I'd like to buy 4.

Also what are good temps for 2x 290x in a loop?

For 20+ FPI I would go with GT-AP15s they are phenomenal fans. That or some noctuas.
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So about a 5-7C difference between all of the blocks. Not a huge difference, but I suppose if you are really tuning for every last ounce of OC it would matter. Thanks
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Exactly why I don't want to buy a top of the line block. The Raystorm at 50USD looks enticing.

Depends..... if you have a self imposed max temp limit of say 75C and you hit 75C with a 4.6 Ghz OC .... on that worse block it would be 82C.....meaning ya 4.6 would be a no go.

I look at it this way ..... if ya spending $500 - 2500 on all ya water cooling stuff, so ya can drop 10-25C off air cooling .... Even at the 25C (GPU), it costs ya $20 per degree..... So spending another $20 to get 1 more degree is right in line with what ya doing. Now looking at CPU, you're down at the 10C level...... so a $500 loop costs ya $50 per degree ..... getting even one more degree for $20 to my mind is the proverbial "no brainer" looking at it from a cost per degree of cooling level.



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What 30mm 360 rad should I buy? Is there other good options besides Alphacool ST30? I would pair it with XSPC RayStorm D5 Photon AX240 WaterCooling Kit.

You decide

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/05/01/alphacool-nexxxos-st30-360-radiator/4/

The Alphacools have the best numbers from 1000 rpm on up. And the screw protectors can be a rad-saver.


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That's how i've always understood it. The warm/hot water passes through the radiator, radiator's being cooled by fans, little water evaporates.

Water does evaporate in a closed loop, you oft see it recondensed as little droplets on the side of ya reservoir. But unless there is a leak, that water vapor can not escape the closed loop unless you have some type of air release. I have never added coolant to my system after the 1st week when all the fine lil tiny bubbles work their way out. There will be a certain amount of water absorption by the tubing but 1) that is easily addressed by using a low water absorption tubing like Tygon 2475 (0.01%) .... it will therefore absorb up to 0.1mm and 2) in my experience, I have not known it to continue once "saturation" is reached.


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Originally Posted by HardwareDecoder View Post

since im on the subject of fans, I'm just using the 1850 rpm or whatever the 1850 means fans that came with my original xspc kit, and some crappy cooler master regular old case fans for the front rad, what are the best fans for radiators? I'd like to buy 4.

Also what are good temps for 2x 290x in a loop?

Hard to say, definitively..... Martisnliquidlab was the definitive source for this info but it's been a while since he's done any testing so his database doesn't include the latest designs. In recent months the Phanteks Sp140s have become the darling of 140mm rad users. Where in the past 120mm dominated air coolers due to the tight fin spacing, now 140mm hold 4 of the top 5 positions on air cooler testing. SCythe and Noiseblocker are about to release new 140mm lines also.

At 120mm, the Gentle Typhoons are a perennial fav but I'd suggest reviewing Martins Data as there haven't been very many 120mm new designs at all.

http://martinsliquidlab.org/category/fans/

Be aware of what kind of noise the fan makes..... To my mind, if I can hear it, it's unacceptable. At 1850 you are definitely gonna hear it..... After 850 rpm on 140mm, you start to "notice" them ..... and when I say notice, I mean like "annoying". I'll put up with 1200 rom during stress testing bit when working or gaming, I don't wanna heat anything.


I have twin 780's running at a 25% OC with a 4770k .... At 1200 rpm, the 780s are at 39C under Furmark with an 8.4C Delta T. Under normal speed control curve, the temps rise to 44C with fans topping out at about 650 rpm. That's on a 280 + 420 with just 5 Phanteks fans in push. The 290x's won't OC that high as they are aggressively OC'd outta the box..... but even with 7-10% over the ultra setting my guess is ya might pull 325 watts .... I calculated / guessed 296 for the 780s.



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So I guess I never really gave it any thought...to drain my loop should I just let it passively come out through my drain port, or would I need to do the 24-pin trick again and use my pump to push it out?

I assume passive so I don't risk my pump running dry, but I just wanted to make sure.

Gravity works...... but you need to let air in in order not to get vapor lock from the negative pressure created by liquid leaving ..... something needs to rplace it and you don't want that to be from the drain ....thinl chug lug chug lug plop plop from pouting from milk / soda bottle. So remove, or at least loosen, on of the rad plugs (or res top plug) up top and let air get in and it will empty in less than a minute
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 3/6/14 at 6:31am
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I have a question about radiators. Which would be better, 280 as intake and no radiator at exhaust (140mm) or 240 radiator at intake and 120 rad exhaust? (or other way around)
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Well it's a surface area problem. So if you think about it that way if you add your numbers together which one gets you the higher value? 280 or 240+120? I think your answer should be pretty obvious thumb.gif
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I have a question about radiators. Which would be better, 280 as intake and no radiator at exhaust (140mm) or 240 radiator at intake and 120 rad exhaust? (or other way around)

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Originally Posted by HardwareDecoder View Post

would you guys have radiator fans sucking air in to a case or pushing it out through the rads? I have someone telling me to have it sucking in.... im not sure

Exhaust radiators use pre-heated inside the case air for cooling thereby greatly diminishing the effectiveness of the radiator.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 3/6/14 at 6:08am
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Exhaust radiators use pre-heated inside the case air for cooling thereby greatly diminishing the effectiveness of the radiator.

If you have good intake fans that aren't running over components the radiator should still be hotter than the air inside the case and so the extra surface area should provide results that are favourable to only having a single radiator.
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Bit off topic I know, but here's a photo of my rig. cheers.gif

Posts a picture in the water cooling picture gallery...states it's a bit off topic....not sure if serious...
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Rig is looking good, hell of ya deal you got on that 2nd 690 right?
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