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post #63411 of 106449
I wasn't expecting the Aquaero 6 to be so expensive. I think I'll go with the Lamptron FC5V3 instead ha ha.
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I wasn't expecting the Aquaero 6 to be so expensive. I think I'll go with the Lamptron FC5V3 instead ha ha.

In case you stick to PWM and want a less expensive solution than the Aquaero, take a look at http://www.swiftech.com/pwmcontrollers.aspx
post #63413 of 106449
I'm waiting to see what EKs new Ascendancy system looks like before buying the Aquaero. The Aqua Computer stuff is super nice but super expensive to match.
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

In case you stick to PWM and want a less expensive solution than the Aquaero, take a look at http://www.swiftech.com/pwmcontrollers.aspx

I have one of those leftover from my H220 purchase.

Unfortunately all the fans I bought for my upcoming build aren't pwm fans. I caught the Phanteks sale a bit late so I wasn't able to snatch up any of the 140 PWM fans. Had I been more patient I could have probably scooped up their 120 fans coming out sometime this spring.

Which means I have to control the fans via voltage, correct? Still new to this whole PC building thing ~_~
post #63415 of 106449
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As long as your fans are not something like Corsair SP120 PWM, you can hook upto 8 of them onto something like a Swiftech 8-way splitter and connect it to your CPU fan header on the motherboard. Assuming all 10 fans will run at the same speed, you can use the mirror CPU_OPT header if your motherboard has it and use another splitter (5 fans each).

If Corsair SP120, get an Akasa 5-way PWM splitter or use 4 fans per Swiftech splitter when using motherboard headers. A stronger controller such as the Aquaero 6 can control 6 SP120s per channel at the moment though Darlene (IT Diva) is testing out somethings that may change that.


How serendipitous for you to offer up such a perfect segue . . . . . thumb.gif


This weekend after some testing on the initial PCB I made to work out the issues with the Corsair PWM fans, I thought that I could do better with a more flexible PCB with more testing options, so I revised that PCB, and just in the last few minutes finished etching it and got it ready to drill.

To go along with that, I ordered 4 of the PWM, SP120 2-Packs and the swiftech X8 splitter on Saturday from FCPU, and an assortment of parts from Digikey.

I was, at first, looking at having someone who already had a bunch of the fans do some testing, but without seeing on the scope what's really going on, that's just not a good way to get a verifiable result.

If my results are good, and I can mod the original PCB to the final component version of the new one, I may still do that to get end user feedback.


If I have the problem solved with 8 fans, I'll get 8 more and another splitter.

I think testing 16 on a channel should be enough, since if it still looks right on the scope with 16, then I know it'll do considerably more.

Assuming I get it all working, I can still sell the fans with a PCB in the "buy & sell" section, so I can justify spending the $ that way.

(Mostly I'm a nerd chick and have an OCD need to find answers)

Anyway, . . . .

Here's the new PCB ,top . . . . with the original test unit, lower:






Here's the PCB I'll be using in the Stretch Build to allow one of the Aquaero 6's to control the 3 pairs of PWM D5's:

Getting the Aquaero to work with the PWM D5's was pretty straight forward.





Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 3/10/14 at 6:27pm
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Darlene, I was the one with the SP120 fans and I am still willing to help out in any way you want, if only because it sounds fun as a scientist myself.. I also look forward to buying your PCB if that helps me out control more fans per channel thumb.gif
post #63418 of 106449
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Originally Posted by Neo Zuko View Post

I'm waiting to see what EKs new Ascendancy system looks like before buying the Aquaero. The Aqua Computer stuff is super nice but super expensive to match.

I'm going to guess it will cost just a tad bit less than the Aquaero units... It's also kinda weird that it has 8 PWM headers to quote Darlene
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It's pretty hard to have any thoughts regarding something that's not yet a tangible reality.

Really, the bottom line, is that you can only have so much capability in a fairly predetermined form factor, that has to stay within a price point that allows for enough sales volume to pay for the development.


Designing/building anything that has to be able to control sizable amounts of current is a tough row to hoe when it comes to miniaturization and low heat. . . . though technology improves every day.


Also, as you've maybe seen in some of my other posts, is that the more channels a controller has with greater power capabilities per channel, the more difficult it is to make it with an onboard infrastructure which can support the total power.

An 8 channel controller with a moderate 30W per channel ability would be 240 watts from the 12V line, . . . that's 20 Amps before losses and inefficiency, . . You'd need to distribute that much current across a lot of pins, wires, and pcb traces to do it efficiently.

I expect that when we see really capable controllers of that level, they'll have to connect with 8pin EPS cables, not some lame molexes.


I'm just fortunate that I can take out of the box items that have enough potential, and then add as required to suit my needs.

Darlene
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post #63419 of 106449
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I have barely used the screen or looked at it since I installed Aquasuite to be honest, the software does everything for me.

Yeah on my build, the screen would actually be in a place I can't see to well from my PC chair. That's why I was thinking just get the 5 LT and do everything through software. We'll see how much $$$ I got and when I get it whether or not I can go for the 5 or 6.
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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

Darlene, I was the one with the SP120 fans and I am still willing to help out in any way you want, if only because it sounds fun as a scientist myself.. I also look forward to buying your PCB if that helps me out control more fans per channel thumb.gif


Once I do some testing with the new one, and find it solves the Corsair problem, . . . Then if it's possible to mod that first PCB to what I end up with component wise on the new one, I'll send it to you


Darlene




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Originally Posted by geggeg View Post

I have barely used the screen or looked at it since I installed Aquasuite to be honest, the software does everything for me.

Yeah on my build, the screen would actually be in a place I can't see to well from my PC chair. That's why I was thinking just get the 5 LT and do everything through software. We'll see how much $$$ I got and when I get it whether or not I can go for the 5 or 6.


I'd only go with the 5LT if you need more voltage controlled fan channels than an existing 6 provides.

The 6 Pro isn't that much more, and gives you PWM for when you can make use of it.

It's a much more future friendly choice.

The more I do with Aquasuite, the more impressive it seems.


Darlene
Edited by IT Diva - 3/10/14 at 6:54pm
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