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How do you mean? If it's a sealed loop and the air doesn't escape it can't be displaced by the water, the only option is for the air to become compressed.
where is the air escaping to? are you going to say the res? whats in the res when the air escapes?
all you do is push the air through the system with water. the water goes where the air was. the air goes where the water was. the water displaces the air, ie the water takes the place of the air. (closed loop)

loop holds 1 liter of uncompressed water. that means the loop holds 1 liter of uncompressed air. put in 1/2 liter of water and there is still 1/2 liter of air. you just want to move the air towards and into the res so you can replace the air in the res with water. the air doesnt escape the res unless you are constantly pouring water into the res as the pump runs pushing the water into the places that the air is currently occupying. all of this means, the water is displacing the air. the air just moves along filling where the water 'was', in your res.
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where is the air escaping to? are you going to say the res? whats in the res when the air escapes?
all you do is push the air through the system with water. the water goes where the air was. the air goes where the water was. the water displaces the air, ie the water takes the place of the air. (closed loop)

loop holds 1 liter of uncompressed water. that means the loop holds 1 liter of uncompressed air. put in 1/2 liter of water and there is still 1/2 liter of air. you just want to move the air towards and into the res so you can replace the air in the res with water. the air doesnt escape the res unless you are constantly pouring water into the res as the pump runs pushing the water into the places that the air is currently occupying. all of this means, the water is displacing the air. the air just moves along filling where the water 'was', in your res.
Perhaps I am misunderstanding you but the air escapes through the open top port of the reservoir.Then you fill the res with more coolant.
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the air coming from the tubing, blocks, rad and fittings leaves said components when the water pushes it out. that air goes into the res. it cannot escape the res. if it escaped the res, what would be taking its place?

half fill a 1 liter coke or any other bottle with water. cap it tight. turn the bottle upside down and any other way you want. did the air need to escape for the water to go to a different part of the bottle? it is the exact same principle. 1 liter of water or 1 liter of air or 1/2 liter of water and 1/2 liter of air. it is the same volume.
you know the blow up kiddie pool life savers? looks like an O ? half fill it with water and seal/plug it back up. swish the water around the 'loop'. the water moves around the loop even though its sealed. the air inside that 'loop' didnt need to escape. the water went where the air was and the air went where the water was.

it cant be explained easier.
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That port should be fine, just have plenty of towel.


D.

Ninja edit: that purged my loop of the air blockage, but it still doesn't look like the water is being cycled back into my reservoir.
Edited by Anoxy - 3/15/14 at 5:09pm
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post #63835 of 107126
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That port should be fine, just have plenty of towel.


D.

Ninja edit: that purged my loop of the air blockage, but it still doesn't look like the water is being cycled back into my reservoir.


If you feel like you got all the air out of the front rad, nothing but water from the purge port, now loosen the tubing coming out of the top rad to GPU and be sure that rad is well purged. If it has ports on top, use one of those with an extension in it to vent the air.

Can you have that fill tube in the top of the res open to atmosphere as well.

You may still be airbound.

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just that you know the temps you are seeing are not your real Teams As you are using Real Team GT that is mad for 6 core CPUs

on a 4770k that is a 4 Core CPU you Should really use Real Temp ( the one with out the GT after it ) for accurate Temp readings thumb.gif

Switched over to Realt Temp, non Gt.. Temperatures are exactly the same. :-) Thanks for the heads up though.
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Alright so the loop is ready to be filled but I've got one question which is slightly off topic, but it's got the word water somewhere in it so this is the place to ask. I don't have an external power supply to run the water pump, and the power supply that's in the case has no rear power switch (It's a Silverstone Strider ST-1000G). How would you guys advise I run it all? With the cables plugged in but with paper towels and an eagle eye at the ready? I'm so ridiculously excited to have this PC running as this project has been a year in the works.

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jump the psu and use a surge protector for an on/off switch.
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the air coming from the tubing, blocks, rad and fittings leaves said components when the water pushes it out. that air goes into the res. it cannot escape the res. if it escaped the res, what would be taking its place?

half fill a 1 liter coke or any other bottle with water. cap it tight. turn the bottle upside down and any other way you want. did the air need to escape for the water to go to a different part of the bottle? it is the exact same principle. 1 liter of water or 1 liter of air or 1/2 liter of water and 1/2 liter of air. it is the same volume.
you know the blow up kiddie pool life savers? looks like an O ? half fill it with water and seal/plug it back up. swish the water around the 'loop'. the water moves around the loop even though its sealed. the air inside that 'loop' didnt need to escape. the water went where the air was and the air went where the water was.

it cant be explained easier.

I understand what you are saying, but you are not explaining why a vacuum is then formed inside the loop during bleeding with a sealed reservoir.
As you posted below "a different reason"
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i have never left my res uncapped to fill and bleed my system. the air isnt escaping anywhere. it is being displaced by the water. an airlock is caused by a different reason.

and how exactly does one fill a sealed reservoir?
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Not to hijack but on my Prodigy I have a 240 in front and 240 on top.it seems like I am "air locked" as well. Radiator thatis vertical(front) seems to be gurgling like crazy. I tipped and tilted but did not try upside down. And I would assume with a 35x it would be pretty strong flow?
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