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What is the most accurate temp monitoring tool? Asus and the bios are displaying up to 61° on the max load temp... Real temp is saying 80.... I am having a hard time believing real temp at this point.
Real Temp should be accurate. ASUS AI Suite only reading the CPU socket temp, not core temp. If BIOS is really showing 61C, that is pretty high & therefore I believe Real Temp reporting 80C.

What is your temp when using AIO? You didn't delid your CPU yet, so the high temp is expected, even with custom watercooling IMO.
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Real Temp should be accurate. ASUS AI Suite only reading the CPU socket temp, not core temp. If BIOS is really showing 61C, that is pretty high & therefore I believe Real Temp reporting 80C.

What is your temp when using AIO? You didn't delid your CPU yet, so the high temp is expected, even with custom watercooling IMO.

As stated, AIO CLC was the same exact temp with a 120mm ENERMAX ELC120
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Real Temp should be accurate. ASUS AI Suite only reading the CPU socket temp, not core temp. If BIOS is really showing 61C, that is pretty high & therefore I believe Real Temp reporting 80C.

What is your temp when using AIO? You didn't delid your CPU yet, so the high temp is expected, even with custom watercooling IMO.

As stated, AIO CLC was the same exact temp with a 120mm ENERMAX ELC120
Yeah, I'm confident you're getting high temp because your CPU is not delided yet. Bad TIM job at factory preventing your custom loop & even your previous AIO from working properly in cooling your CPU.
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Yeah, I'm confident you're getting high temp because your CPU is not delided yet. Bad TIM job at factory preventing your custom loop & even your previous AIO from working properly in cooling your CPU.

I really dont want to take this thing apart and deal with the bubbles again, lol. I may do that soon though.. Suggested time for that procedure? I had Artic Silver 5 (AS says it is slight capacative, not using it inside the lid) Ceramique 2 (currently on the block itself) and I have MX-4 inbound, hopefully this week.
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Yeah, I'm confident you're getting high temp because your CPU is not delided yet. Bad TIM job at factory preventing your custom loop & even your previous AIO from working properly in cooling your CPU.

I really dont want to take this thing apart and deal with the bubbles again, lol. I may do that soon though.. Suggested time for that procedure? I had Artic Silver 5 (AS says it is slight capacative, not using it inside the lid) Ceramique 2 (currently on the block itself) and I have MX-4 inbound, hopefully this week.
You can delid your CPU anytime. Looking at the pics of your rig, look like you can detach the CPU block (to get access to the CPU) without draining your loop. I have done that before but only for re-applying the TIM.

I have no idea about AS5 being capacitive. Material in AS5 is Polysynthetic Silver. Material in most TIMs are Aluminium Oxide. AS5 already around for sometime now. I've never heard anyone having problem with it except good thing. I know a lot of people freaked out about the curing time but actually it's not like you're going to get huge temp drop once it cured, it only a couple of degrees drop at most. Basically you'll get the performance AS5 offer even before it cured. I'm not familiar of Céramique 2 & not a fan for MX-4; tried it, don't like it at all. My favourite is Shin-Etsu G751.

If you're going to delid your CPU, CLU or CLP (visit delided thread to know which one is recommended) is what most people use. If I understand correctly, *regular* TIM should be ok because the glue used by Intel to hold the IHS is the one that caused bad contact between the die & IHS. I'm not an expert regarding deliding. You should visit delided thread for info. thumb.gif
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You can delid your CPU anytime. Looking at the pics of your rig, look like you can detach the CPU block (to get access to the CPU) without draining your loop. I have done that before but only for re-applying the TIM.

I have no idea about AS5 being capacitive. Material in AS5 is Polysynthetic Silver. Material in most TIMs are Aluminium Oxide. AS5 already around for sometime now. I've never heard anyone having problem with it except good thing. I know a lot of people freaked out about the curing time but actually it's not like you're going to get huge temp drop once it cured, it only a couple of degrees drop at most. Basically you'll get the performance AS5 offer even before it cured. I'm not familiar of Céramique 2 & not a fan for MX-4; tried it, don't like it at all. My favourite is Shin-Etsu G751.

If you're going to delid your CPU, CLU or CLP (visit delided thread to know which one is recommended) is what most people use. If I understand correctly, *regular* TIM should be ok because the glue used by Intel to hold the IHS is the one that caused bad contact between the die & IHS. I'm not an expert regarding deliding. You should visit delided thread for info. thumb.gif

Very valuable info. I think with the second pump, I may have to pull the "in line" to get the block off. I will attempt to avoid doing that, of course. If I have to pull it, that isn't a big deal.. I am heading over to Delidding now.

I read a lot on Artic Silvers site today: Not Electrically Conductive:

Arctic Silver 5 was formulated to conduct heat, not electricity.
(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)

:didnt know that until i read it :-)
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http://www.melevsreef.com/why_rodi.html

its just a step beyond.

if i said distilled, well, im A drunk, B. sleep deprived and drunk, C. above and hungry.

Sounds great in theory, except that you are having some sort of growth issue with your super water. tongue.gif
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http://www.melevsreef.com/why_rodi.html

its just a step beyond.

if i said distilled, well, im A drunk, B. sleep deprived and drunk, C. above and hungry.

Sounds great in theory, except that you are having some sort of growth issue with your super water. tongue.gif
I have reversed osmosis purification machine that can filter up to 0.0001 micron. Can I use the filtered water for watercooling?
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My 1st ground-up PC and custom loop.

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3930K @ 4.7GHz
16GB Dominator Platinum @ 2133MHz
GTX 780 Ti w/ XSPC water-block & Heat Killer back-plate
(2) 256GB Samsung 840 Pro (RAID0)
(2) 500GB WD Velociraptors (RAID0)
Mod Kobra red sleeve/heat-shrink
AX1200
EK Coolstream PE 120 (1) & 240mm (1) rads
Corsair SP-120's (3)
1/2" Cooper tube
Primochill Revolver rigid compression fittings (8)
XSPC dual-bay res w/ D5 vari pump
Distilled water

That's bloody fantastic! Great job! thumb.gif
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