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Interesting. Well, if running 3 DDC's means that's gonna happen to one of em, then i already made the mistake by buying the 3rd. Guess we'll just have to see what happens. I doubt something that drastic would happen during a leaktest.

Definitely something to keep an eye (or ear) out for =)

Not that I don't believe it can't happen. I feel like it could definitely be an issue if running all of them @ 100%. I also feel like some one some where would have had this happen to them @ some point in time, and we would then have people linking empirical evidence when the topic comes up.
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post #64782 of 106449

Yeah, 35x3 at full duty cycle is pretty ferocious. I can't see any logical reason to run em at full blast except for fishing for leaks

    
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Building my cleaning loop. It was very difficult to get an empty clean bucket ("tineta multiuso"), here they only sell them with paint or other construction materials. This comes without a top. one bottle of white vinegar, a meter cup, some hose clamps and 10 meters of "leveling" clear 1/2 ID hose.


One of two AlphaCool Radiators. I got lucky and the fins are almost perfect, but the outside side walls don't have a perfect painting, but its minimal, you have to see in angle. smile.gif


A picture of the inside of the radiator


After the radiator dance I have distilled water + vinegar all over me. And this is what came out of one of the radiators on the first flush.


Then I built the cleaning loop. It leaked from in and out ports of the filter as I used garden hose barbs that have a very small threads. I had to use Teflon tape to stop the leaks. One of the barbs on the radiator became loose when fixing the leak on the filter and another leak. How do you disassemble a loop? You first take the tube out of the barb and then unscrew the barb from the water block?
Here a picture of the Aquarium pump (700l/h) inside the bucket.


Success! After fixing all leaks the water started to come back to the bucket. To get the air out of the radiator I had to put it vertically with the barbs ups.


A panoramic view of the cleaning loop working. The trashcan is not part of the loop.

I'm super hiper mega ultra mega happy!
I will put more pictures in my build log. thumb.gif
Edited by aaroc - 3/25/14 at 10:29pm
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post #64784 of 106449

Looks good :thumb:

Maybe cover the bucket with something though to keep random debris out while your flushing. Even a towel or sheet or something

    
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post #64785 of 106449
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Looks good thumb.gif
Maybe cover the bucket with something though to keep random debris out while your flushing. Even a towel or sheet or something
I wrapped a cloth around the end of the hose to stop debris.
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Interesting. Well, if running 3 DDC's means that's gonna happen to one of em, then i already made the mistake by buying the 3rd. Guess we'll just have to see what happens. I doubt something that drastic would happen during a leaktest.

Definitely something to keep an eye (or ear) out for =)

Not that I don't believe it can't happen. I feel like it could definitely be an issue if running all of them @ 100%. I also feel like some one some where would have had this happen to them @ some point in time, and we would then have people linking empirical evidence when the topic comes up.
You would need a high speed camera,a crystal clear top and plenty of time on your hands to prove cavitation issues.
Essentially,you would need to record high speed footage thru the top and watch for bubbles forming on the leading edges of the impeller at high speed. How worthwhile that would be is open to interpretation,im not entirely sure that impellers cavitate like traditional props as the coolant is drawn thru the impeller and flung out rather than using screw kinetics of the normal prop
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Interesting. Well, if running 3 DDC's means that's gonna happen to one of em, then i already made the mistake by buying the 3rd. Guess we'll just have to see what happens. I doubt something that drastic would happen during a leaktest.

Definitely something to keep an eye (or ear) out for =)

Not that I don't believe it can't happen. I feel like it could definitely be an issue if running all of them @ 100%. I also feel like some one some where would have had this happen to them @ some point in time, and we would then have people linking empirical evidence when the topic comes up.
You would need a high speed camera,a crystal clear top and plenty of time on your hands to prove cavitation issues.
Essentially,you would need to record high speed footage thru the top and watch for bubbles forming on the leading edges of the impeller at high speed. How worthwhile that would be is open to interpretation,im not entirely sure that impellers cavitate like traditional props as the coolant is drawn thru the impeller and flung out rather than using screw kinetics of the normal prop


Impellers cavitate just like a prop or hydrofoil can cavitate.

Any time you have a shape moving thru the water, or water moving past a shape, that creates a lower pressure area on one side of it by accelerating the flow rate across it compared to the other side, you can have cavitation.

Cavitation is water being vaporized by frictional heating, and reduced pressure within a localized region, into vapor bubbles that when they collapse, allow water to fill the empty space at supersonic velocities.

The surface of an prop or impeller or hydrofoil that's experienced significant cavitation, looks like the lunar surface, full of pock marks and gouges.

Ongoing cavitation leaves permanent damage in it's wake.


For pumps, when cavitation occurs, it sounds like it has little rocks in it.


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Building my cleaning loop. It was very difficult to get an empty clean bucket ("tineta multiuso"), here they only sell them with paint or other construction materials. This comes without a top. one bottle of white vinegar, a meter cup, some hose clamps and 10 meters of "leveling" clear 1/2 ID hose.


One of two AlphaCool Radiators. I got lucky and the fins are almost perfect, but the outside side walls don't have a perfect painting, but its minimal, you have to see in angle. smile.gif


A picture of the inside of the radiator


After the radiator dance I have distilled water + vinegar all over me. And this is what came out of one of the radiators on the first flush.


Then I built the cleaning loop. It leaked from in and out ports of the filter as I used garden hose barbs that have a very small threads. I had to use Teflon tape to stop the leaks. One of the barbs on the radiator became loose when fixing the leak on the filter and another leak. How do you disassemble a loop? You first take the tube out of the barb and then unscrew the barb from the water block?
Here a picture of the Aquarium pump (700l/h) inside the bucket.


Success! After fixing all leaks the water started to come back to the bucket. To get the air out of the radiator I had to put it vertically with the barbs ups.


A panoramic view of the cleaning loop working. The trashcan is not part of the loop.

I'm super hiper mega ultra mega happy!
I will put more pictures in my build log. thumb.gif

can you show pics of the after and any debris. I was thinking about doing this. just want to know if its worth it
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Looks similar to my kitty litter flusher lol, but I didn't use that filter but one for a fridge water filter (cost $15ish at Home Depot)
 
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Looks similar to my kitty litter flusher lol, but I didn't use that filter but one for a fridge water filter (cost $15ish at Home Depot)

whats a kitty litter flusher if you dont mind me asking?
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