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Hey guys, just a simple question. If I hook up an 8 port PWM adapter to the PWM CPU 4 pin, and have my pump on port 1 and all the rad fans etc on the others. Can receiving a too high of a signal cause the pump to overwork its self?

Im going with the D5 X-TOP I want to set up the fan curve in the bios to max everything out at 60C, It should idle around 20-25ish. So I can OC the chip as high as I can while maintaining max cooling if it's needed. I'm using compression fittings so I doubt they tubes can pop off.

First time watercooler just trying to figure out the little things

There is no such thing as too high a PWM signal. 100% PWM is 100% pump speed on the PWM d5.

The issue with mixing PWM devices can be that they have very different PWM response curves. So that for example 70% PWM might have fans running at 70% speed but the pump is running at 100% or you might want a low PWM % for quiet fans at idle but that would make the pump run very slow. A 35X curve for example about 15% to 60% PWM is the range from min to max speed.

The PWM D5 may be one of the better devices to do this with though as it has a quite straight response curve from 10% to 100%. That doesn't guarantee that both will be doing the speeds you want at the same times though, it would depend on the fans you mix it with.

Actively controlling pump speed gives very little benefit anyway.

So much this,set the speed to the highest you can tolerate noise wise then leave it. Job done.
I have been saying this since forever....
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listening to a pump rev up is probably the most annoying thing ever.
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post #65023 of 106449
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I think this is mainly down to people being given the information to do these different things,little snippets that make life go easier.

Yeah, things today are quite a bit different from when I did my first W/C loop. Information was much less
readily available back then (if at all), so you needed to figure out lots of things yourself that you can just
look up today in a tutorial or ask in places like this one. Also, it was much more DIY-style, no case was
able to fit any sort of radiator in stock config, there was always cutting involved, for example, there were
not special w/c pumps, radiatosr were repurposed rads from A/C units or cars or w/e, and so on.

This isn't supposed to be like "things used to be better" or "today's folks have it so easy, things were
hard back then, blablabla", it's just something I noticed. I think it's quite awesome how the modding and
W/C scene have taken off since then, but I also fondly remember the olden days when things were a
bit more ghetto. It's been quite a journey for me personally. smile.gif
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What is a respectable idle temp delta between ambient and water temp? I'm working with about 2.5C right now.
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What is a respectable idle temp delta between ambient and water temp? I'm working with about 2.5C right now.
Is that load or idle....? Would love to know too,mine is 3c when idle....
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Lol, people usually shoot for about 10C under load. 2.5C is excellent.

 

Edit: @maxforces, great job modding that thing. That airbrushing is kinda crazy, i like it :thumb:


Edited by kpoeticg - 3/30/14 at 3:54pm
    
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post #65028 of 106449
Thats just idle. Load it's hard to tell because I think my external air temp sensor is too close to the case and the positive pressure inside the case causes the hot air to be forced out right near the sensor. If I raise the speed of my fans or put my CPU/GPU under heavy load my air temp gradually rises.

I've been so busy lately haven't had much time for my PC. Probably a good thing for my wallet! But sometime's I just pop the top on a cold one and sit here and admire my rig while I see what you hooligans are up to on my favorite threads. thumb.gif

EDIT: Load temps typically run 7C-11C delta. Idle is the one that's around 2C-3C.
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Yeah, usually there's not much heat being generated at idle. So low delta would be normal. 10C is just what people usually shoot for because it's what every1 uses for testing. 10C would be incredible under load tho

    
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Here I got a delta of 2,5 C idle on the CPU loop and 1 C on the GPU loop, CPU (4960X) is OC'ed to 4.7 GHz with 1,35 vcore but I'm using "balanced" setting in Windows Power Option when I'm not gaming or benching.
Not tested load delta but will do it now on both loops.
    
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